America & Guns

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I live in Canada, and its legal to carry a registered gun, but not pepper spray or mase.

I hear in Texas, they give you a gun when you enter the border? Is this true? Is it that dangerous just to be in Texas?

so anyone in Texas can pop anyones ass if they "feel" they need to?

wow. I am shocked. Guns wont solve anything. It will simply deterioate the situation.
 
In texas you are allowed to own and carry a gun if you are not a convicted felon..you should do some research on crime rates in different states you may find some interesting info there like ..Washington DC has been for many of the past 20 years at the top of murders with firearms for the US, and has the strictest Gun control laws.
 
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I just finished cleaning my Kimber :biggrin:

By the way, the only time one is able to justify the use of his/her gun is when he/she feels that they are in danger of their life & cornered with no other way out, then they can use their weapon. :wink:
 
downwiz2 said:
I live in Canada, and its legal to carry a registered gun, but not pepper spray or mase.

I hear in Texas, they give you a gun when you enter the border? Is this true? Is it that dangerous just to be in Texas?

so anyone in Texas can pop anyones ass if they "feel" they need to?

wow. I am shocked. Guns wont solve anything. It will simply deterioate the situation.

Also...look what happened in Great Britain after they enacted ultra-restrictive gun control laws....murder, rape, robbery rates increased dramatically.

Don't recall being able to carry a weapon in Canada unless very special circumstances...our old police board chairman in Toronto (Norm Gardner) was granted a special permit, and actually shot an armed robber who attacked him at his bakery.

I am Canadian too, and am more than irritated that our federal govt. spent 2 billion dollars on a gun registry that is generally regarded as useless

From Wikipedia:
Violent crime in Canada

Canada does not have a long history of gun control, save a handgun registration program in 1934. Canada did not have serious gun control until the 1970s. The rates of violent crime in Canada have been stable (e.g., the homicide rate) or declining (several other categories of violent crime). Presently, Canada's violent crime rate is roughly similar to that of the United States. Some persons mistakenly compare government data directly between the two countries (i.e. 958 per 100,000 for Canada vs 523 per 100,000 for the United States) and conclude that Canada is more violent. This comparison is inaccurate because Canada collects the incidence of reported violent crimes, while the United States collects violent crimes committed. The U.N. provides data with a similar measure for both countries. These numbers show that violent crime is similar in both nations.

What we do know is that the United States has a murder rate almost twice that of Canada. Historians point out, however, that this is unrelated to Canada's gun control laws as Canada's murder rate was lower than that of the United States for many years before it had any gun control..
 
downwiz2 said:
I hear in Texas, they give you a gun when you enter the border? Is this true? Is it that dangerous just to be in Texas?

I travel to Texas every week. You should see the pile of guns I have collected from crossing the border. J/K :biggrin:
 
Downwiz, I have lived in seven different states including Texas, states both liberal and conservative, and drive daily through Washington, DC. DC probably has the strictest gun control laws and is by far the most violent place I frequent. I have lived in Texas, which probably has the most lenient gun control laws and it was one of the safer places I have ever lived. Guns don't commit crime, people commit crime.

Don't you see how this works? When you outlaw guns, all the law-abiding citizens comply and disarm, which emboldens the criminals. The law doesn't mean anything to them. They are criminals, remember? So they keep their guns while all the law-abiding citizens disarm, and gun crime rises. This is exactly what happens in DC, and why many of us law-abiding citizens choose NOT to live in DC. We choose NOT to live there in part because gun control makes it less safe. We can't have guns and the criminals still have theirs. And since we don't want to be the victims, we move to another state surrounding DC.

Now take Texas by contrast. Are Texans armed? Oh yeah, and then some, plus a little bit more. This is a good thing though. They aren't armed because the place is unsafe; in fact, Texas is SAFER because the citizens are armed. And I don't mean just safer than it might be otherwise. I mean really, really safe, like the safest place you can think of in Canada. Texans love guns, as guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution. It is not a love of violence. It is a love of liberty. Their love of guns makes Texas safe. The criminals in Texas pause a minute before breaking into that house, because chances are much better than even that the homeowner is armed. The homeowner will almost certainly fire if he can get off a shot And he will drop you like a rock without thinking twice about it. He's grew up with guns, and is completely comfortable with them. Just the realization that the homeowner is almost certainly armed makes most criminals look for another line of work. This situation sort of creates what is known in the U.S. Marines as "peace through superior firepower". 99.99 percent of the time the Texan is gonna EASILY outgun the criminal, because he is a Texan, and any Texan worth his salt wouldn't have some lightweight Saturday Night Special. They go for the serious firepower, like .44 magnums, 30-06 rifles, and heavier.

Texas really is like a whole 'nother country, in a certain way. This is a good thing. Texas is HUGE. The scale of the place is immense, which bleeds into other aspects of their lives. They like big dually pickups, for example. It isn't a conceit; it is just their surroundings. There are probably many, many people there who have never been outside of Texas. What for? If you wanna see the ocean, just drive down to Corpus! So it makes them kind of Texas-centric. It isn't a conceit, they just don't know any other way. Texas is very safe on the whole (yes, there is still crime in Texas, but again, it is the people, not the guns, who commit the crimes) and the people are exceedingly patriotic, law-abiding, and friendly for the most part.

You are serious with the question about being issued a gun crossing the state line, aren't you? You seem to have the notion that Texas is like a fenced off version of the old wild west, and you better have a gun if you go there! Nothing could be further from the truth. Texas is a very safe and friendly place. Who have you been talking to? A John Kerry supporter? Somebody has been filling your head with some pretty tall tales. Canada is wiser about the guns than the United States. If guns were outlawed in Canada gun crime would RISE.

Virginia, where I work, has pretty lenient gun laws. Occasionally a group of gun enthusiasts will have an "awareness event" and go packing their sidearms to a local public place in one of the more urban or suburban areas. Someone usually calls the police, who dutifully go out and check it out, then let them go on their way. It is legal to carry a handgun in Virginia, just most of the urbanites and suburbanites seem to think it isn't. The country people don't give it a second thought; they have always been armed.

A guy I work with is a serious gun enthusiast. I wouldn't wanna accidentally break into his house. He probably prays every night for God to send him a burglar. Great guy, though. He is the one you would want leading your squad in Iraq, because he knows what he is doing.

I grew up in North Carolina, which is very similar in many ways to Texas. I was allowed to carry a shotgun when I was ten. I was not allowed, however, to have a BB gun at any age. I might have put someone's eye out! If I had a son I would follow the same policy. My family wisely understood that a BB gun is a toy and a shotgun is, well, a shotgun. (I swear am not making this up.)

You know what you should do? You should take your next vacation in Texas. Why take my word for it? Go see it for yourself.

Don't Mess With Texas... :cool:
 

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loNfastNSX said:
Don't Mess With Texas... :cool:



God Bless Texas![/QUOTE] Back in the 80's I was in Austin for a while. I remember seeing bumper stickers that said "don't mess with Texas", it was part of a anti littering campaign.
 
steveny said:
God Bless Texas!
Back in the 80's I was in Austin for a while. I remember seeing bumper stickers that said "don't mess with Texas", it was part of a anti littering campaign.[/QUOTE]

Back in the 80's I was in kindergarten for awhile......... :biggrin:
 
downwiz2 said:
I live in Canada, and its legal to carry a registered gun, but not pepper spray or mase.
What? I have trouble believing that. When you say "carry", do you mean "you can carry an unloaded firearm in a locked box from the trunk of your car into the gun club"? I've lived in Canada for 32 years thus far and I have never, EVER seen a citizen walking around with a loaded firearm in a public place. Only exception is hunters. Can you substantiate this?

BTW, I hope you don't REALLY think its plausible that authorities dole out firearms at the borders and airports of Texas. Methinks you've been watching too many Michael Moore movies. :rolleyes:
 
Jett said:
if it's not too impolite of me to ask, i'll have one of these double-breasted mattress-thrashers, please. i'll even drive to texass to pick her up. heck, as far as i'm concerned, she can even carry a piece. woof!
 

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NsSeX said:
I just finished cleaning my Kimber :biggrin:


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Re: Reality Check Please

Soichiro said:
Jett posted:
>>Don't you see how this works?
>>Texas is SAFER because the citizens are armed.
>>really, really safe, like <snip> Canada.

Really? Explain these pesky little facts, then:

TEXAS (population around 20 million)
Murders 1,238
Burglary 188,975
source http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/txcrime.htm

CANADA (population around 30 million)
Murders 548
Burglary 28,332
source http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/040728/d040728a.htm

Look at WHERE in Texas these crimes source from. Examine the demographics of those areas.
 
Jett said:
Downwiz, I have lived in seven different states including Texas, states both liberal and conservative, and drive daily through Washington, DC. DC probably has the strictest gun control laws and is by far the most violent place I frequent. I have lived in Texas, which probably has the most lenient gun control laws and it was one of the safer places I have ever lived. Guns don't commit crime, people commit crime.

Don't you see how this works? When you outlaw guns, all the law-abiding citizens comply and disarm, which emboldens the criminals. The law doesn't mean anything to them. They are criminals, remember? So they keep their guns while all the law-abiding citizens disarm, and gun crime rises. This is exactly what happens in DC, and why many of us law-abiding citizens choose NOT to live in DC. We choose NOT to live there in part because gun control makes it less safe. We can't have guns and the criminals still have theirs. And since we don't want to be the victims, we move to another state surrounding DC.

Now take Texas by contrast. Are Texans armed? Oh yeah, and then some, plus a little bit more. This is a good thing though. They aren't armed because the place is unsafe; in fact, Texas is SAFER because the citizens are armed. And I don't mean just safer than it might be otherwise. I mean really, really safe, like the safest place you can think of in Canada. Texans love guns, as guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution. It is not a love of violence. It is a love of liberty. Their love of guns makes Texas safe. The criminals in Texas pause a minute before breaking into that house, because chances are much better than even that the homeowner is armed. The homeowner will almost certainly fire if he can get off a shot And he will drop you like a rock without thinking twice about it. He's grew up with guns, and is completely comfortable with them. Just the realization that the homeowner is almost certainly armed makes most criminals look for another line of work. This situation sort of creates what is known in the U.S. Marines as "peace through superior firepower". 99.99 percent of the time the Texan is gonna EASILY outgun the criminal, because he is a Texan, and any Texan worth his salt wouldn't have some lightweight Saturday Night Special. They go for the serious firepower, like .44 magnums, 30-06 rifles, and heavier.

Texas really is like a whole 'nother country, in a certain way. This is a good thing. Texas is HUGE. The scale of the place is immense, which bleeds into other aspects of their lives. They like big dually pickups, for example. It isn't a conceit; it is just their surroundings. There are probably many, many people there who have never been outside of Texas. What for? If you wanna see the ocean, just drive down to Corpus! So it makes them kind of Texas-centric. It isn't a conceit, they just don't know any other way. Texas is very safe on the whole (yes, there is still crime in Texas, but again, it is the people, not the guns, who commit the crimes) and the people are exceedingly patriotic, law-abiding, and friendly for the most part.

You are serious with the question about being issued a gun crossing the state line, aren't you? You seem to have the notion that Texas is like a fenced off version of the old wild west, and you better have a gun if you go there! Nothing could be further from the truth. Texas is a very safe and friendly place. Who have you been talking to? A John Kerry supporter? Somebody has been filling your head with some pretty tall tales. Canada is wiser about the guns than the United States. If guns were outlawed in Canada gun crime would RISE.

Virginia, where I work, has pretty lenient gun laws. Occasionally a group of gun enthusiasts will have an "awareness event" and go packing their sidearms to a local public place in one of the more urban or suburban areas. Someone usually calls the police, who dutifully go out and check it out, then let them go on their way. It is legal to carry a handgun in Virginia, just most of the urbanites and suburbanites seem to think it isn't. The country people don't give it a second thought; they have always been armed.

A guy I work with is a serious gun enthusiast. I wouldn't wanna accidentally break into his house. He probably prays every night for God to send him a burglar. Great guy, though. He is the one you would want leading your squad in Iraq, because he knows what he is doing.

I grew up in North Carolina, which is very similar in many ways to Texas. I was allowed to carry a shotgun when I was ten. I was not allowed, however, to have a BB gun at any age. I might have put someone's eye out! If I had a son I would follow the same policy. My family wisely understood that a BB gun is a toy and a shotgun is, well, a shotgun. (I swear am not making this up.)

You know what you should do? You should take your next vacation in Texas. Why take my word for it? Go see it for yourself.

Don't Mess With Texas... :cool:


this is one thing that separates Canada from the states....

well you've certainly cleared up a lot of things for me! Maybe i will visit texas one day in an NSX. WAIT make that a bullet proof NSX.
 
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