Abs upgrade code issue

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My abs light popped on and it's code is 51 "motor lock". I cannot find page 19-23 of the new service book to see what to do.
I have tried to clear it but the light stays on. It's the SOS upgrade kit which has worked great for two years.

First does anybody have that page from the new manual showing what to do for code 51? Second, there is another page in the book the shows what to do if the lights stays on. I have downloaded all the manuals from wiki and searched btw thanks to R13 the jumper idea worked perfectly, but the pages are just skipping over what I need.

Cars runs great I just have this light on and no abs. And no I do want to keep the abs I know it can just pull the fuse to get rid of the light.

Thanks
Charles

Update: further testing shows I do not have battery power to pin#9 of the SOS harness. The big connection that goes to the abs module..This indicates a blown fuse.. But where? I have checked every fuse.
 
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Charles,

There is a relay that is associated with that SOS kit that is typically secured to the harness frame behind the glove box. Can you hear if that relay is kicking on? Also, I don't recall that there were any additional fuses associated with the SOS harness, so I would simply check the usual fuses under the dash & under the hood.
 
I think did hear the relay click..not sure. I did however check for power to the fuse block. Fuse #40 has no power which should power pin #9 on the SOS harness. The fuse is good. For the life of me I cannot figure out why. I opened up the back of the block and it's looks great. No loose wires all in good condition. So I'm assuming it has to be a ground..I'm gonna take out the glove box to see what's up.
Can someone confirm that pin#9 is powered by fuse 40
Update:
I have everything apart and grounded #40 to the car. I have voltage so I jumped the fuse and the light is gone..yeah for me but what is causing a bad ground to just that fuse from the block? This is so random

Disregard the light came back. So back to my original question..does pin#9 on the SOS harness have 12v? If it does then I will need to know where it gets power. I have everything apart.
 
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Since you have the glove box out, check the large white connectors/wires from the SOS harness & ensure that none of those have rattled loose. Realize that there is shrink tubing over each connector which gives each wire some physical contact with the pin, but only an intermittent one for the solder joint maybe fractured. A very "gentle" tug on the SOS harness wire can potentially expose the culprit. For reference, this is what was causing my upgrade to run afoul. After resoldering the fractured connection, all was well. It doesn't hurt to check.
 
Hi, chudson1549.

Please visit the following link on NSXCB site.
I helped another owner with ABS error code #51 as yours.
http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/showthread.php?9286-ABS-Upgrade-Support

Please note that some of the photos are RHD specific and although the pin position is the same, the connector orientation could be 180deg off on LHD model so please be careful. For example, the orientation of ALB motor relay socket described later is different between the RHD and LHD model because the pentagonal main relay box itself is mounted differently between the two models.

While there is a possibility that the cause of issue on your ABS is different from the above case or possibly the same but with additional cause, going through the above link should help you in understanding the system.
It’s quite long so please take some time.

You may already know but with the latest ABS modulator, you can’t erase the error code by disconnecting the battery or pulling the fuse, etc.

You must follow the specific sequences involving the brake pedal, SCS terminal on the SoS upgrade loom (not the blue 2pin connector at the passenger side on the factory loom) and the timing.

I don’t have experience with the SoS upgrade loom but based on several sources including the process in the above link, the pin#9 at the big black/orange connector that is connected to the latest ABS modulator is getting the power through the 2pin 250 WPC (the 2pin orange flat spade connector) on the original factory loom.
You can find the photo of this connector in the post #17 in the above link but here is the same one.

ABSmotorPower.JPG


I believe you had to create your own connection from the SoS loom to this orange connector (possibly by removing the mating connector from the original classic ABS modulator).

This is the power for the ABS pump inside the latest ABS modulator and without +12V at the pin #9, you are 100% guaranteed to trigger error code #51 after starting the engine and when you start moving the car for the first time.

The 2pin orange 250 WPC has two thick wires (BLK and WHT/BLU).
BLK one is always at the chassis GND.
The WHT/BLU one will be at the battery +B voltage through 40A fuse (no.30) if the original classic ALB motor relay was activated.
The 40A fuse and the relay are both inside the pentagonal shape main relay box under the bonnet.

For the other owner in the above link, the cause of code #51 was the faulty original motor relay.
Once he replaced it with a new one, his issue was solved.

You can find exactly the same relay at many locations on our NSX inside the fuse box, relay box, etc so as a quick check, you can just swap it with a known good one.


As in the post #19 of the above link, one of the switched terminals of the relay is connected to the battery through no.30 40A fuse.
You should always see +B battery voltage at this terminal even when the IG key is in Off position.
The other side of this switched terminal is connected to the WHT/BLU wire of the orange 2pin connector above which leads to the #9 pin at the latest ABS modulator.


Now to the coil terminals of the relay.
One of them will see 12V when the IG key is in P2 On position.
In order to activate the relay, the other side of the coil terminal has to be at the GND.
This is something you need to check as I don’t know how SoS loom is achieving this.

It is possible that it is connected to the GND via the two white connectors on SoS loom that will be installed inside the cabin behind the glove box or simply it was connected to the GND using a separate single wire with eyelet terminal.

As reported by nsx_2k as well as by other owners, I’m afraid using the soldering on pin terminal with heat shrink tube on top is not ideal against vibration.
My background is motor racing and we never use soldering for connector pin and always crimp it.
Therefore, it is possible that your relay is not activated due to lack of GND connection at the coiled terminal of the classic ALB motor relay.

Hope you will find the cause of the issue.

Kaz
 
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Thanks kaz I had your link bookmarked from r13 problem on this site. It was very helpful. I went through all the connections and ohm the SOS connections through the factory harness. They all checked out..pulling my hair out. I'll go through again and check for power on the factory 2pin you mentioned.

I did replace the relay. Btw..thanks

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Kaz you are the man..I checked the connections to the SOS harness but didn't unwrap the power connection to the 2pin under the hood. I just checked for power like you noted in your thread. I got power and moved along. I guess when I turned the wire up to check it made a good connection. However when I pulled on the white wire from the alb, it fell right out.

Made a better connection and I could clear the code. I'm checking them all..thanks to you guys that answered my questions. Everything certainly helped..

Charles
 
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