Can you believe these hats? Gotta be lots of men who would love to get their hands on them :wink:
A noble cause, but...
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why couldn't this be two hot girls with these hats on?
menuserve said:
What KIND of QUESTION is that ??? Who carez if they're hot or not ???? Grow up!
They're most likely Breast Cancer Survivors, and I think any type of fundraising for this cause is FANTASTIC !!!
MiamiMermaid said:
Mermi, go lightly, while I'm certainly with you and am an active supporter of the ACS, these boys are just having fun with the hat, while ignoring the significance of the other symbols in the picture. You've always been able to see humor in other posts, I don't think any harm was meant, if it was, than I'm with you, and they should be severly punished!!!!
mermaid - i'm sorry if my comments upset you... while i didn't think before typing... there was no thought given to the significance of the photo as a whole, but rather just that hat!
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MiamiMermaid said:
if you're expecting political correctness on an internet forum, i think you should develop some tolerance cause it isn't always going to happen.
some questionable things that go on here are all in good fun...and part of maturity is being able to recognize when this is the case.
Also, I'm sick and tired of the orgy over breast cancer. More men, considerably so, die of prostate cancer and we don't have any races, any campaigns, any pink ribbons, any fundraisers, nobody asking me at the grocery store if I want to donate. We ain't got jack. And, men are dying. So many more men die of cancer than do women that it is somewhat astonishing. And, you hear nothing about it, nary a peep during the avalanche of "women's health" media blitzes.
In fact, if I recall correctly, somewhere around 1% of BREAST cancer fatality victims ARE men. Probably well below 1% of breast cancer cases are male, but the death rate is astoundingly higher because of the sexist nature of the publicity surrounding this disease. There are NO female prostate cancer victims. I find the entire focus to be overtly discriminatory and at times offensive.
In fact, if I recall correctly, somewhere around 1% of BREAST cancer fatality victims ARE men. Probably well below 1% of breast cancer cases are male, but the death rate is astoundingly higher because of the sexist nature of the publicity surrounding this disease. There are NO female prostate cancer victims. I find the entire focus to be overtly discriminatory and at times offensive.
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Maybe we should have some awareness campaigns focused on prostate cancer then. You seem like an enthusiastic candidate to get something like this started. One thing you need to remember is that there is no competition between breast and prostate cancer (as if when one gains popularity the other diminishes), although your rant acts as if they are competing for media attention.liftshard said:
Yup... it has to start somewhere.liftshard said:
redshift said:
Actually causes do compete for media/public attention. Take a look at the hurricane donations that have taken away from other causes. If you only have X amount of money to donate to any cause, every cause will compete for that $X.
:biggrin:liftshard said:
And there you have it...splitz said:
Breast
vs.
Prostate
Heavy Weight Title Fight
P.S. I'm not trying to make light of cancer - I'm still quite young but my parents have had both types of cancer, receptively, and I know the suffering involved.
liftshard said:
Here is my show of support for all the prostate cancer survivors, sorry I couldnt tie a ribbon into the shape of a butt. :biggrin:
Armando
Osiris_x11
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Gotta give, consistently...
Supposedly less than 1-2% of all charitable donations in the United States encompass the natural disaster relief funds allocated lately (ie. Hurricaines Katrina & Rita, Africa relief, Asian tsunami, etc).
I'd generalize the individuals/organizations who donated for Katrina/Rita, Live_Aid II, etc. don't donate otherwise to charitable causes (based on that statistic).
In layman's terms: if Katrina/Rita didn't happen, the $20 or $50 contribution (even more for some) many people graciously provided would've stayed in their pockets... it wasn't destined for MADD, Salvation Army, Goodwill, UNICEF, Red Cross, etc. or other NPO charitable organizations.
splitz said:
Supposedly less than 1-2% of all charitable donations in the United States encompass the natural disaster relief funds allocated lately (ie. Hurricaines Katrina & Rita, Africa relief, Asian tsunami, etc).
I'd generalize the individuals/organizations who donated for Katrina/Rita, Live_Aid II, etc. don't donate otherwise to charitable causes (based on that statistic).
In layman's terms: if Katrina/Rita didn't happen, the $20 or $50 contribution (even more for some) many people graciously provided would've stayed in their pockets... it wasn't destined for MADD, Salvation Army, Goodwill, UNICEF, Red Cross, etc. or other NPO charitable organizations.
I think breast cancer gets a lot of attention because it takes so many relatively younger women where prostate cancer is primarily a disease of old age.
Yes, I know there are plenty of exceptions both ways but that's the way it's perceived. Besides, if women organize themselves to help themselves and men don't make a similar effort, then we have no room to gripe.
Yes, I know there are plenty of exceptions both ways but that's the way it's perceived. Besides, if women organize themselves to help themselves and men don't make a similar effort, then we have no room to gripe.
Re: Gotta give, consistently...
my wife and i have an undefined annual budget for charitable causes we support... we give (what we believe is) a reasonable amount each year to community-related organizations - children, wildlife, cancers, elders - and we donate to other ad hoc crises such as natural disasters.
with the multiple significant disasters around the world over the past couple of years, i'm beginning to pay a bit more attention to the natural disaster amount and wondering if it's time to ration it a bit.
along this thread, just this morning i believe i read that the amount donated for the recent massive earthquakes in kashmir/pakistan pales in comparison to the other, recent disasters.
<sigh>
interesting thread...Osiris_x11 said:
my wife and i have an undefined annual budget for charitable causes we support... we give (what we believe is) a reasonable amount each year to community-related organizations - children, wildlife, cancers, elders - and we donate to other ad hoc crises such as natural disasters.
with the multiple significant disasters around the world over the past couple of years, i'm beginning to pay a bit more attention to the natural disaster amount and wondering if it's time to ration it a bit.
along this thread, just this morning i believe i read that the amount donated for the recent massive earthquakes in kashmir/pakistan pales in comparison to the other, recent disasters.
<sigh>
bodypainter said:
Well, breast cancer is mostly taking post-menopausal women and prostate cancer is mostly taking older men. While the frequency of breast cancer in younger women is a little higher than the analog, still these and other cancers, for all intents and purposes, are old age diseases.
As for men organizing, we're discouraged from organizing. It's not just white men, either. The Million Man March was roundly pilloried by women's advocacy groups the same as the "Promise Keepers" rallies were. ANY time a bunch of men get together with other men for any reason, there is always something "wrong" with this, according to women's groups. Were men to say the same about a gathering of women, we'd be shouted down as hateful bigots, but women seem free to be suspicious and derisive of men's organizational efforts. The spin routinely stereotypes men as the solely abusive and dangerous members of society. Women's domestic violence rates are similar to men's, though less prone to injury, and their rate of child abuse is roughly equivalent. The sugar & spice vs. snakes & snails crap seems to be perpetuated by certain groups, even while demanding that women who are incapable of lifting ladders and hoses under their own power be allowed to work as firefighters.
Disease "awareness" and advocacy in general has a huge, largely sexist double standard. However, if men are expected to be giving equal pay and equal rights and equal all of this and that, the least we should get in return is equal caring, equal benefit of the doubt, equal concern, equal time, and the equal privilege to form men-only advocacy groups without the fear of demagoguery. NOW had us believing that the Promise Keepers were neandarthals and that the Million Man March was full of chauvinist batterers when neither claim was even REMOTELY true. Don't get me started on divorce and custody law, either...if you thought I was verbose before...
I must say, I have to agree with Liftshard on this one.
Armando, why do you feel prostate cancer survivors are assholes?
My father is a prostate cancer survivor.
Other notable survivors: Rudy Guiliani , Joe Torre
Notable victims: Frank Zappa , Bill Bixby
Armando, why do you feel prostate cancer survivors are assholes?
My father is a prostate cancer survivor.
Other notable survivors: Rudy Guiliani , Joe Torre
Notable victims: Frank Zappa , Bill Bixby
Osiris_x11
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no harm, no phoul...
Not to put words in Armando's mouth, but I think he implied prostate (exam) = anus = a$$hole... :redface:
Uhhh, as you do know the prostate exam is basically: rubber glove, KY, spread cheeks, etc...
NSXLNT said:
Not to put words in Armando's mouth, but I think he implied prostate (exam) = anus = a$$hole... :redface:
Uhhh, as you do know the prostate exam is basically: rubber glove, KY, spread cheeks, etc...
SilverStone05 said:
Maturity=Respect .... period.
Support ALL Cancer Survivors... It can happen to ALL of us, regardless of race, age, SES, etc.
XOXO *Mermi*
Re: no harm, no phoul...
Exactly, now back to the Snap Ring issues.................................
Armando
Osiris_x11 said:
Exactly, now back to the Snap Ring issues.................................
Armando
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