a 1997 nsx with 817 miles for $43k, too good to be true?

[kld12]

Hi everyone. I am new to the forum. Let's just say that I share everyone's passion for the nsx and now that I just graduated pharmacy school, I now have the mean$ to purchase one.

Anyways, I was searching autotrader as I have done everyday for the past few months and stumbled upon a listing for a 1997 nsx with 817 miles for $43k as the topic suggests. I e-mailed the owner and he said he needed quick cash to make a real estate investment.

Figuring that you guys are very helpful and informative about these things, i wonder what your opinions are.

Most likely I will not purchase this car(I prefer black,live 2000 miles away, dad won't loan me the money yet, just started working) But if it is true and the car is clean, I hope that some lucky Nsx enthusiast's dream comes true instead of some dealer picking it up and making a hefty profit.

Well, just wanted to say hello to you guys and hopefully I will be crusing in an nsx soon (target 6 months)
----Ly

Btw: I have a 99 Es300 and compared to my old 95 accord V6, its engine is less smooth in my opinion. That only makes me wonder what the nsx engine is like. I am drooling already.

 

[flaminio]

Are you sure the car had only 817 miles? When searching on Autotrader, at the bottom of each listing it reports the distance from your zip code, like this:

817 miles from 94065

A link to the car might be helpful...

Also, get the VIN and perhaps someone with an open Carfax account can check it out.

-Bob ('94 #496)

 

[dx-specR]

Agreed get the vin number so you can run a carfax to make sure it's

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[This message has been edited by dx-specR (edited 08 July 2002).]

 

[ktan]

Found the link ...
http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/vdetail.jtmpl?car_id=101595487&dealer_id=&max_price=&start_year=1997&end_year=1997&address=55311&search_type=used&make=ACURA&model=NSX&min_price= &distance=any&advcd_on=n&advanced=n&color=&car_year=1997&ac_afflt=none

 

[NSXY]

I called, and the car is in Bakerfield being sold by the "friend of a car wholesaler." He says that it has a battery acid-damaged front bumper that needs painting. It has black interior.

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NSXY
95 NSX-T, 5 sp, Red/Tan, Tubi exhaust, Dali street anti-sway bars, Dunlop SP9000s

 

[cojones]

Could be legit... I've heard of a higher-mile blue 97 changing hands for $40K

 

[nsxtasy]

Originally posted by cojones:
Could be legit... I've heard of a higher-mile blue 97 changing hands for $40K

Yes, it could be... just like all those urban legends about the Porsche that the divorcing wife sold for $5K, etc... but it's not likely. Whenever you hear of a car selling for $10-20K less than its market value, you have to wonder what's going on.

 

[cojones]

Originally posted by cojones:
Could be legit... I've heard of a higher-mile blue 97 changing hands for $40K

I actually know the guy who bought it, and some of the prior owners. It happens...

The particular BLUE 97 I speak of has since been sold (for about $43-45K) and it definitely has more miles than this one.

 

[Lud]

Yeah I know of a bunch of blue '97 NSXs that sold cheap too. There was always a reason. They were sold cheap, but not below their market value given their condition / history. I will bet you a drink that this story is no different. Caveat emptor.

 

[emvanderpol]

The vin on this is JH4NA2167VT000020. Could someone check this for me.
Thanks,

 

[PKim]

Viper Driver,
Can you help us with this vin#.

Thanks

 

[topdaytrader]

Its a lease veichle. Can you sell a lease veichle? What is this guy try to pull????

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Super Xenon

[This message has been edited by topdaytrader (edited 09 July 2002).]

 

[PKim]

Its a lease veichle. Can you sell a lease veichle? What is this guy try to pull????
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Super Xenon

Are you sure it is a lease? Then why is there only 817 miles? Doesn't add up. This is also a coupe and not a T. Does that change the value of the car? I think that there were more T than coupes in '97 can someone comfirm that?

 

[topdaytrader]

The car is register on 97-07-03. Don't tell me you believe that he only drives 800 miles in 5 years. Unless he only drive his NSX to his mailbox. USE COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!!!

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Super Xenon

 

[Veleno]

Though I don't know anything regarding this car or it's mileage(true or not), I do know that it is possible for an NSX, any year, to have very low mileage as the one mentioned above.

My car is proof, but I doubt there are many NSXs like this.

Always good to be safe though, so make sure you check it out!


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Richard
NSXTASY

 

[Viper Driver]

Originally posted by HPV100:
Viper Driver,
Can you help us with this vin#.

Thanks

Sorry. My Carfax membership expired on the 1st of July.

 

[nsxtasy]

Originally posted by HPV100:
This is also a coupe and not a T. Does that change the value of the car? I think that there were more T than coupes in '97 can someone comfirm that?

This car is an NSX-T, not a coupe. Look at the title of the ad and it says "NSX T Coupe" - meaning NSX-T.

Only one blue 1997 NSX coupe was sold in the United States, and this is not it. (I know the car and the owner, R.W. He puts plenty of track miles on it and it's not for sale right now.)

 

[nsx]

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1 Vehicle Specifications JH4NA2167VT000020

1997 ACURA NSX-T

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2 Title Check Clean Title History Guaranteed
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3 Odometer Rollback Check No Odometer Rollback Detected

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4 Problem Check No Problems Found

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5 Registration Check Checked 7 types of vehicle
registrations
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6 Vehicle History Details 3 Total Vehicle History Records Found

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NOTE: CARFAX has not inspected this vehicle. It may have problems that
have not been reported to CARFAX. CARFAX recommends a vehicle
inspection by a professional mechanic.
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How CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's history:
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CARFAX checks the VIN against its nationwide database containing
over 1.75 billion vehicle history records. The CARFAX database
includes U.S. and Canadian title and registration activity, rental and
lease usage, odometer readings from inspection stations, auto auctions
and other sources.

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SECTION 1 CARFAX VEHICLE SPECIFICATIONS
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VIN: JH4NA2167VT000020
Year/Make/Model: 1997 ACURA NSX-T
Body Style: COUPE
Engine: 3.2L V6 PFI DOHC 24V
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Carburetion: FUEL INJECTED
Cylinders: 6
Manufactured in: JAPAN

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SECTION 2 TITLE CHECK
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* RESULT: GOOD NEWS!
CARFAX search results confirm this 1997 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA2167VT000020)
qualifies for the FREE $5,000 CARFAX Clean Title History Guarantee.
CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history to determine if any title
documents were designated or marked with the following problems:

Problem Titles Checked: Results:
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Salvage/Junk-------------------------> No Salvage/Junk Title Found.
Rebuilt/Reconstructed----------------> No Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Found.

Flood Damage-------------------------> No Flood Damage Title Found.

Damage Disclosure--------------------> No Damage Disclosure Found.

Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON)---------> No Manufacturer Buyback Found.

Exceeds Mechanical Limits (EML)------> No EML Found.

Not Actual Mileage (NAM)-------------> No NAM Found.


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SECTION 3 ODOMETER ROLLBACK CHECK
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* RESULT: GOOD NEWS!
CARFAX search results on this 1997 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA2167VT000020)
did not uncover a potential odometer rollback. CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's
reported odometer readings to determine if any reading is less than a
previously reported reading.

Date Reported: Odometer Reading:
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06/23/1997 75 Reported on 05/26/1997
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11/06/1997 288
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SECTION 4 PROBLEM CHECK
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* RESULT: GOOD NEWS!
CARFAX search results on this 1997 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA2167VT000020)
did not uncover any of the following problems:

Problems Checked: Results:
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Accident-----------------------------> No Accident Record Found.

Salvage Auction----------------------> No Salvage Auction Record Found.

Failed Emissions Inspection----------> No Failed Emissions Record Found.

Fire Damage--------------------------> No Fire Damage Record Found.

Crash Test Vehicle-------------------> No Crash Test Vehicle Record Found.

Grey Market Vehicle------------------> No Grey Market Record Found.


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SECTION 5 REGISTRATION CHECK
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FYI: CARFAX search results on this this 1997 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA2167VT000020)
identify the types of state motor vehicle department registrations, other
than private, that appear in this vehicle's history.

Registrations Checked: Results:
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Lease--------------------------------> LEASE REGISTRATION FOUND.

Rental-------------------------------> No Rental Registration Found.

Government---------------------------> No Government Registration Found.

Taxi---------------------------------> No Taxi Registration Found.

Fleet--------------------------------> No Fleet Registration Found.

Commercial---------------------------> COMMERCIAL REGISTRATION FOUND.

Non-Profit---------------------------> No Non-Profit Registration Found.


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SECTION 6 VEHICLE HISTORY DETAILS
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The CARFAX database contains a total of 3 vehicle history records on this
1997 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA2167VT000020).
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Date: 06/01/1997

Information Source:
California

Motor Vehicle Dept.


General Comments:
Registered as

commercial lease vehicle


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Date: 06/23/1997
Odometer Reading: 75

Information Source:
California

Motor Vehicle Dept.


General Comments:
Title issued

First owner reported

Registered as lease vehicle

Odometer reading recorded on 05/26/1997


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Date: 11/06/1997
Odometer Reading: 288

Information Source:
Auto Auction

Pacific SW Region


General Comments:
Vehicle sold


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Date: 07/09/2002
Information Source:
Edmunds.com
http://www.edmunds.com

General Comments:
Manufacturer-Recommended Maintenance Schedules

http://applications.edmunds.com/maintenance/MaintenanceServlet
?id=lin2154&year=1997&make=Acura&model=Nsx&mileage=288&zip=19335

Check this vehicle's service schedules, estimated costs and
recall notices at Edmunds.com.

 

[emvanderpol]

Just found out the entire left side (quarter, door, and fender panels) had been replaced. Spoke to the guys "brother" who owns a body shop, and he said the paint was a 9.5 out of 10.

Just thought I'd pass this along.

By the way just got the BBSC & Headers, two days ago. Oh my!!!!

 

[low miles97']

good luck finding your dream nsx
but mean time let me sale this one
any questions ask me
and i'll send you a cookie for finishing your med school.
but keep kissing up to your dad so you can get the money for your car.
back off if not interested dont run away the person that is going to buy it.
dont waist my time

 

[ANYTIME]

Originally posted by low miles97':
good luck finding your dream nsx
but mean time let me sale this one
any questions ask me
and i'll send you a cookie for finishing your med school.
but keep kissing up to your dad so you can get the money for your car.
back off if not interested dont run away the person that is going to buy it.
dont waist my time

You must realize that the NSX community is a very close knit one. I recently totaled an NSX(Lud has the VIN)and wanted everyone to know that if my car ever resurfaced with a clean title and in PERFECT shape, to be leary of the person selling it. I would want to know if the car had any work done to it and you should feel the same. The best thing to do is be honest and tell potential buyers of the cars history, versus them finding out on their own and you looking like the bad guy pulling some scam. You can admit that THAT is why the price is so low, as Lud had mentioned previously.
Sincerely,
John

 

[Lud]

Do I get my free drink now?

 

[ub2slw]

817 miles, and the car is in Bakersfield?? Yeah, that's about right. After visiting the g/f's family there (Bodfish..yuck), I wouldn't drive an NSX around. (Bakersfield, Fresno, and Lompoc are places I will NEVER visit again)

 

[PKim]

I just talked to this guy in Bakersfield and he didn't mention anything about the left side being replaced and I asked him if it was ever in a accident and whether there were any body work done and he denied it. He told me that there was acid damage on the front bumper. I then continued to ask him about the car, found out that it was in the dealer shop, telling me that it had an oil change and then I asked about if the AC was working and then he stated that it was blowing cold air then proceeded to tell me that the dealer is looking into it. Then he said the windows don't go up very fast. I thought that this window thing concerns '91 and '92 not '97. I asked about the interior and figuring being a car with 817 miles(I really doubt this figure now) it must smell like a new car and he told me that the leather is not soft since it had been sitting out in the sun. So I don't know what else is wrong with it but it doesn't sound like a 817 mile car. This car is like looking at a 60 year old person and finding out that they are really 40. If you don't take care of your car this is what can happen.

 

[mlambert890]

I think unscrupulous sellers just need to accept the fact that they're screwed if their buyer was savy enough to find NSX Prime.

Don't waste OUR time coming here to tell us to not help out the buyer.

If a buyer comes here looking for advice, they're going to get it. If you're a seller trying to misrepresent a car, that's your problem...