7.5 Amp Fuse

Yellow Rose

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We have heard and read many times, that to reset the ECU you pull the 7.5 amp clock fuse. I always thought this is to isolate the ECU from the battery to clear the codes by removing power. I do not have my service manual with me so I can't confirm the wiring diagram, but I am not so sure about the previous sentence. Whenever I would pull that fuse, after reinstalling it I would have to reset the clock, the radio stations and the AC settings.

Yesterday my TCS light came on by itself, without me pushing the button. I pushed the button in and out a few times but the light was still on. For the heck of it, I found a safe place to park so I could pull the clock fuse.....perhaps this was somehow related to the ECU needing to be cleared for some weird reason. I put the fuse back in, reset the AC-radio but the TCS light was still on and I had no clock display. Next time I started the car, the AC-radio settings were erased, as if the fuse had been pulled. Car started fine and ran fine, but the TCS light was still on and every time I got in to start the car, I had to reset the AC-radio. Still no clock.

When I got home I pulled the fuse to see if it was blown, but there was no sign of black smudge powder that is synonomous with a electrically blown fuse. But hey what's that? The fuse element was broken. I got out a 10x magnifying glass and you could clearly see a tiny clean mechanical break. And if I wiggled one of the male tabs, I could see how the broken fuse element would open more. The reason I had to reset the AC-radio each time started the car, was because the fuse was open. I replaced with a new fuse and everything is back to normal.

Four questions for the electrical wizards. A - If the fuse was broken, which means an open circuit then how could the AC and radio operate but not the clock? B - If the ECU is on the same circuit, how could the car start and operate ok without the brain getting power? C - If the ECU was still working with no clock fuse does that mean there is a secondary power source to the ECU? D - How can pulling the clock fuse clear the ECU if the ECU can still operate the car without the fuse?
 
There are two power sources - one switched with ignition & one constant power - these devices all need constant power to maintain the memory. The simplest example of this is the radio - all radios have this feature so the station memories, sound set-up etc are retained when unit is powered off, but the main power for the system is via ignition (or accessory) power.
So each time you started the car, you were just beginning with a "blank" memory, but it would still function.
Incidentally, not all fuses blow with a black charred appearance - it really depends on how much current surged to melt it. This sounds like it may have been a mechanical break, not caused by electrical current surge.
 
Two Power Sources

Thanks, guys.
 
1 - the ECU will go into "relearn" mode each time you start the car.

2 - you will have to reset the AC each time you start the car.

3 - you will have to reset the radio each time you start the car.

4 - you will have no clock.

5 - the TCS light will stay on.

6 - why would you want to go through items 2, 3, 4 each time you start the car?
 
D'Ecosse said:
Incidentally, not all fuses blow with a black charred appearance - it really depends on how much current surged to melt it. This sounds like it may have been a mechanical break, not caused by electrical current surge.
This also happened to me . It took me three days (I'm a little slow) to check out the fuse with a meter rather then look for a break to figure that a fuse can look good and still have an open circuit. When you mentioned "mechanical break" it all makes sense now. I've taken that fuse out so many times to clear the CEL, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. I bought a code reader and now can clear the cel without loosing presets. Still working on getting rid of the CEL. Looks like some of the guys on this forum with OBDII have finally got it licked so I feel better about being successful.
 
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nsxhk said:
Huh? My TCS doesn't stay on after re/re of the 7.5 fuse.

Henry.

Henry - please re-read Nsxdemon81's question. He asked what will happen if the 7.5 amp fuse is left out.....not removed and put back in.

Yes, if removed and put back in, the TCS light will go off as you stated. This is also my experience. If removed and left out, which is how his post is worded, the TCS light will stay on.
 
Yes, I did read that. And yes, I've tried leaving it out for weeks, but my TCS didn't stay on. Just sharing my experience :smile:

Henry
 
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