60k service

[mul1gan]

Ok I have another question,

I have a 95 nsxt with 42k miles. I spoke to the dealer and they said even though I have yet to hit 60k I should still take the car in for the 60k service and the timing belt change. They said the factory recommends that owners do this if the car is 5+ years old. How accurate is this statement? What's everyone's experience on this?

What should I do? All I want is an oil change...

 

[coolnsx]

As per Acura the TIME requirement to change the timing belt has come. The potential damage is go great and repair cost so high I would think most of us are changing both the timing belt and water pump to meet the factory recommendation. My $.02

 

[mul1gan]

re

so you're saying I should do both even tho I only have 40k miles?

man, I knew I shoulda purchased a car with 60k and the service already complete...

 

[hlweyl]

Ok I have another question,

I have a 95 nsxt with 42k miles. I spoke to the dealer and they said even though I have yet to hit 60k I should still take the car in for the 60k service and the timing belt change. They said the factory recommends that owners do this if the car is 5+ years old. How accurate is this statement? What's everyone's experience on this?

What should I do? All I want is an oil change...

If all you want is an oil change, just get the oil change. But they are correct, your car is 8 years old and is due for the timing belt/water pump service based on time.

 

[LeftLane]

mul1gan - you should save around $400 if you have the 60k service done at the same time as the tb/wp service, due to the overlap of labor and certain items (like draining the coolant). You can wait, but the labor is duplicated and you will pay more.

Todd

 

[demigod]

I should be picking my car up today from doing the 60k, timing belt, and water pump..just waiting for Ramon to call me.

 

[coolnsx]

demigod, he was putting it back together when I went by at noon , looks great, even the timing belt that came out looks new.

 

[demigod]

Kewl hehe

 

[mul1gan]

re

Timing belt still looked new? Then why change? Can they inspect it for a fee and give us the option to change or not.

peter

 

[Larry Bastanza]

It really cannot be visually inspected. Even after the full 90K usage it may "look" fine. Once you get the belt out and twist it, you may hear a cracking of the glass belts inside the rubber. I personally have not heard this cracking on an NSX belt.

The main point is to really check it, you need to remove it, so you would never put it back in after all that work anyway.

You have to decide: "Do you feel lucky?"

HTH,
LarryB

 

[RyRy210]

Re: re

Timing belt still looked new? Then why change? Can they inspect it for a fee and give us the option to change or not.

peter

Looks new doesn't mean it still peforms like new. You are better off having this done than waiting 'til it breaks. Seriously, these are all preventive maintenance to a car.

Get to know your car a little better. Spend some time reading the maintenance section of your owner's manual. The service intervals are based on either mileage or time, whichever comes 1st. You fall in the latter category.

 

[coolnsx]

I agree 100% with Larry. The belt looked new, you could read the part numbers printed on the belt, and it was also very flexable, I turned it inside-out several times. However, do you want to take chance on the damage that would result? If you look at the dollars both ways it's a no brainer.

 

[demigod]

Just got my car back and its more quiet than before, and its running great..I recommend Ramon to anyone for quality work, and the price was great too!

 

[nsxtasy]

I have a 95 nsxt with 42k miles. I spoke to the dealer and they said even though I have yet to hit 60k I should still take the car in for the 60k service and the timing belt change. They said the factory recommends that owners do this if the car is 5+ years old. How accurate is this statement?

Not very accurate. If you check the recommended maintenance schedule in your owner's manual, you will see that the recommendation on the timing belt on your '95 is every 90K miles or 6 years (not 5), whichever comes first. Similarly, the 60K service is every 60K miles or 4 years, whichever comes first.

What should I do?

Assuming the 30K service has not been done for the past two years or 30K miles, you should get the 60K service done. You should also get the timing belt (and water pump) changed. It may mean spending some money ($800-1200 for the $60K, $1000-1500 for the TB/WP) but you won't have to spend it again for a while.

Originally posted by LeftLane
you should save around $400 if you have the 60k service done at the same time as the tb/wp service, due to the overlap of labor and certain items (like draining the coolant)

Flushing the coolant is not part of the 60K service; it is recommended as part of the 45K service, 75K service, etc. However, it is indeed done as part of the timing belt and water pump replacement. Furthermore, doing it now means that it doesn't have to be done for another 30K miles or 2 years, whichever comes first (which means when you would have your 90K service done, not your 75K). It's a good idea to keep track of when you are having each of your services done, so you can keep up with the recommended service intervals without having them done more often than necessary.

 

[mul1gan]

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Man,

I just bought the car and its the holiday season... Maybe i'll wait til jan/feb... I just won't drive the car (that much) lol

I guess i'll end up doing both service same time...
So if I do my 60k service at 40, then the next one is due in 4 years or 70k miles? and the belts are due in 6 years or 130k miles? Yippie!! that means I can drive it to work on a daily basis...

 

[coolnsx]

mul1gan, you should have no major maintanence issses for many, many years of great driving experiences. ENJOY!

 

[nsxtasy]

So if I do my 60k service at 40, then the next one is due in 4 years or 70k miles?

I think you mean 4 years or at 100K miles. However... let's go back a moment to look at the scheduled maintenance recommendations in the owner's manual.

Oil change and oil filter is recommended at least every 7500 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first, and many owners do it twice as often as that.

Valve adjustment is recommended every 15K miles or 1 year, whichever comes first.

There is a major service every 30K miles or 2 years, whichever comes first. In addition to the oil change and oil filter and valve adjustment, this includes:

- replace air filter
- replace transmission fluid
- flush brake fluid

The service at 60K or 4 years (which means also 120K) adds:

- replace fuel filters
- replace spark plugs

The service at 90K adds the timing belt and water pump.

Therefore, you will need another major service (the one that's every 30K miles) when you hit 70K miles or 2 years from now, whichever comes first. However, you won't need to do the fuel filters or spark plugs at that time. The major service after that is when you will do the fuel filters or spark plugs.

and the belts are due in 6 years or 130k miles?

That's correct.

Incidentally, one thing that has not been mentioned are the cooling system hoses. There are 22 hoses in the cooling system, and I think five of them are considered major. The maintenance schedule does not specify a replacement interval for them. However, hoses go bad over time. Replacing them is a good preventive measure and can keep you from getting stranded somewhere.

I strongly recommend that you replace the hoses - either all of them, or the major ones - at the same time as the timing belt and water pump. This is a good replacement interval for them, for several reasons. It's sufficiently long that you're not doing it too often, but short enough that it prevent them from failing while you're driving. And it saves work by doing it at the same time as the water pump. Also saves coolant, which is flushed as part of either operation.

Replacing the cooling system hoses at this time will add perhaps $300-400 to your repair bill and is strongly recommended.

I know this seems like a lot of money to be spending on your car, but I think you understand that most of this (the timing belt and water pump, and the cooling system hoses) is only done once every 6 years or 90K miles, so once it's done, your car will be good for a long long time.

 

[jrehner]

Looks but probably bad

Yeah, I hate the time element too--I drive my car every day but not far or long and so my checkups are based upon time rather than mileage......Tires, timing belt, hoses, they all look good but if you just let your car sit in the driveway and never drive it-they still all need to be replaced at the proper time intervals----example--had a jag with great rubber on them but I never drove it...They looked fine but were not--had two of them blow out within a month after driving the car again...of course, discount tire still replaced them for free but only because I am a long time customer