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Anyone watch yesterday's New Hampshire Demo Derby? 
I didn't, but picked up some of the "details" today via youtube clips. The double bird was cool. The grandstands were all but empty!
One mile oval - boring boring boring snooze.
I didn't, but picked up some of the "details" today via youtube clips. The double bird was cool. The grandstands were all but empty!
One mile oval - boring boring boring snooze.
Anyone watch yesterday's New Hampshire Demo Derby?
I didn't, but picked up some of the "details" today via youtube clips. The double bird was cool. The grandstands were all but empty!
One mile oval - boring boring boring snooze.
I watched a little bit, falling asleep until just after the final restart. Definitely a pitiful crowd. I'm not sure about the racing, but for sure there is a great deal of whining and complaining.
Miner
Re: Shooting themselves in the foot one race at a time
Just read Marshall Pruett as he pretty much filets IndyCar management
Barnhart is the obvious goat, but I'm sure Bernard, behind the scenes, is screaming for "a show" within the TV window which was rapidly running out. I hope they like what they get; controversy and skullduggery, as they are well on their way to capturing the WWE audience. They're rapidly losing this old dog, that's for sure. :frown:
Just read Marshall Pruett as he pretty much filets IndyCar management
Barnhart is the obvious goat, but I'm sure Bernard, behind the scenes, is screaming for "a show" within the TV window which was rapidly running out. I hope they like what they get; controversy and skullduggery, as they are well on their way to capturing the WWE audience. They're rapidly losing this old dog, that's for sure. :frown:
Re: Shooting themselves in the foot one race at a time
I read Pruett's analysis and that one rule in the rule book is custom-written for Barnhart. His own get out of jail card...
When will Bernard step up and do the right thing?
I read Pruett's analysis and that one rule in the rule book is custom-written for Barnhart. His own get out of jail card...
When will Bernard step up and do the right thing?
Re: Miller on WindTunnel
See him last nite? got a chuckle as he pretty much rained down massive ridicule on Barnhart and the series. Has anyone defended Barnhart? Didn't think so.
Miller writes in Speed about replacing Barnhart, the last hold over from Tony George:
Randy's got some 'splaining to do about why he keeps that joker on and cries he has no options. Miller thinks differently:
anyway, give Bernard some time to talk someone into it but, at the very least, a new car next year deserves a new Race Control.
See him last nite? got a chuckle as he pretty much rained down massive ridicule on Barnhart and the series. Has anyone defended Barnhart? Didn't think so.
Miller writes in Speed about replacing Barnhart, the last hold over from Tony George:
Randy's got some 'splaining to do about why he keeps that joker on and cries he has no options. Miller thinks differently:
anyway, give Bernard some time to talk someone into it but, at the very least, a new car next year deserves a new Race Control.
Re: Miller on WindTunnel
Yes, he was funny. New car new race control definitely.
I'm glad they showed the video where the green flag did the 1 wave at Loudon before the yellow came out. This was not in the broadcast. I wonder how the appeal will go? Is there even a point in the appeal since they results are reverted back to lap 215?
Yes, he was funny. New car new race control definitely.
I'm glad they showed the video where the green flag did the 1 wave at Loudon before the yellow came out. This was not in the broadcast. I wonder how the appeal will go? Is there even a point in the appeal since they results are reverted back to lap 215?
Re: Ah yes, justice to be done.
Except for Ryan, Orial and Dixon. I think it comes down simply to who gets the win, Ryan or Orial. No one is suggesting that Dixon is anything but 3rd, are they?
Don't know how it will go tomorrow since I have no background on the 3 judges. They may be IRL stooges just like Al Unser Jr. who was supposed to be the "drivers' advocate," right? But he turned out to be a "team player" and had nothing but support for Barnhart.
Except for Ryan, Orial and Dixon. I think it comes down simply to who gets the win, Ryan or Orial. No one is suggesting that Dixon is anything but 3rd, are they?
So no surprise: RHR retains the win.
Have not been posting much but been watching every race on DVR. Lots of action on and off the track lately. Can't say that they are all good but some of it is entertaining. I laughed out loud ( can't get myself to type just letters for this because of old age) when Powers gave the double finger. Agree on your take on Al jr.
Re: Randy's target demographics
Was at Infineon this weekend for Formula Car Challenge support races. I had lots of time on my hands this afternoon because we could not pack up and leave after our 11 AM race since we were in the IndyCar TV background. So I walked around the track during the race and looked at the crowd as much as the cars. I saw a lot of kids, literal kids and 20-somethings in the stands; lots more than the 40+ folks. Not that there wasn't a lot of open seats, but the majority of ticket holders appeared to be there for the visceral thrill, the fireworks and circus aspects of the event. I seriously doubt very many of the herds of tatt'd up 18 YO girls following their BF's knew which car was which or other silliness like the basis of the Target/Penske rivalry. One question I got was "which car is Helio and where's he in the line-up?" (He was right on the leader Power's ass at the time, but I doubt they cared who was leading.)
Nice airshow though; I didn't really watch but they appeared to be the Blue Angels. Some bucks for that, no doubt.
One other random thought: the display car looked nothing like the new design with semi-fenders. Hmmmm.
Oh and one random thought deserves another; Danica needs to grow a pair when braking for Turn 9. Pretty timid. But JMHOWTFDIK?
Over and out.
Was at Infineon this weekend for Formula Car Challenge support races. I had lots of time on my hands this afternoon because we could not pack up and leave after our 11 AM race since we were in the IndyCar TV background. So I walked around the track during the race and looked at the crowd as much as the cars. I saw a lot of kids, literal kids and 20-somethings in the stands; lots more than the 40+ folks. Not that there wasn't a lot of open seats, but the majority of ticket holders appeared to be there for the visceral thrill, the fireworks and circus aspects of the event. I seriously doubt very many of the herds of tatt'd up 18 YO girls following their BF's knew which car was which or other silliness like the basis of the Target/Penske rivalry. One question I got was "which car is Helio and where's he in the line-up?" (He was right on the leader Power's ass at the time, but I doubt they cared who was leading.)
Nice airshow though; I didn't really watch but they appeared to be the Blue Angels. Some bucks for that, no doubt.
One other random thought: the display car looked nothing like the new design with semi-fenders. Hmmmm.
Oh and one random thought deserves another; Danica needs to grow a pair when braking for Turn 9. Pretty timid. But JMHOWTFDIK?
Over and out.
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HAVE NOT seen the circuit, but your post makes me wonder what the ALMS drivers think - are they complaining, too? In my opinion, the ALMS event has displaced the Indy Car race as irrelevant and most tedious whenever I've been able to watch the two in same weekend/same circuit. I'll be watching all I can this weekend! :smile:
Re: Something to smile about
Good to see Seebass up there. Driving for Dale is a far cry from F-1 or even Newman Haas. :redface: So, he's wringing it all out of that car you can be sure.
And I guess I'd be a heretic if I didn't wet my pants over Simona being back and starting 12th. :biggrin:
And I think it's pretty funny that road racing "specialists" like Marco, Schecketer and Danica can't get out of their own way. Don't know what the issues are but from Jan Beekis's comments, there isnt' any of significance.
See ya Danica, have a pile of money and fun in NASCRAP. Don't let the door hit ya in that pretty little ass. :wink:
Good to see Seebass up there. Driving for Dale is a far cry from F-1 or even Newman Haas. :redface: So, he's wringing it all out of that car you can be sure.
And I guess I'd be a heretic if I didn't wet my pants over Simona being back and starting 12th. :biggrin:
And I think it's pretty funny that road racing "specialists" like Marco, Schecketer and Danica can't get out of their own way. Don't know what the issues are but from Jan Beekis's comments, there isnt' any of significance.
See ya Danica, have a pile of money and fun in NASCRAP. Don't let the door hit ya in that pretty little ass. :wink:
Re: Tony spent one of his 9
lives today in practice. If you did not see his crash/launch off Helio, you need to find it and watch it. It could've been fatal. And not only for him but that corner worker that was lolly-gagging in an exposed area.
Of course, the question is, how does both brake systems fail? Had to be a pedal/link/mechanical failure.
But then TK finishes well in the race. Good on him. He's been a good poster boy for the series and today's TK experience was good for the series.
Of course that mid race traffic jam was kind of hilarious if not embarassing. But, what are you gonna do on tight street circuits.
lives today in practice. If you did not see his crash/launch off Helio, you need to find it and watch it. It could've been fatal. And not only for him but that corner worker that was lolly-gagging in an exposed area.
Of course, the question is, how does both brake systems fail? Had to be a pedal/link/mechanical failure.
But then TK finishes well in the race. Good on him. He's been a good poster boy for the series and today's TK experience was good for the series.
Of course that mid race traffic jam was kind of hilarious if not embarassing. But, what are you gonna do on tight street circuits.
Re: Oh and one other thing..........
did you see this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHuIb2e5Nh0&feature=player_embedded
These fans got their money's worth, no? :biggrin::biggrin:
Edit: here's the debrief by Rahal. http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-rahal-almost-meets-his-maker-in-baltimore/
did you see this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHuIb2e5Nh0&feature=player_embedded
These fans got their money's worth, no? :biggrin::biggrin:
Edit: here's the debrief by Rahal. http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-rahal-almost-meets-his-maker-in-baltimore/
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Second to last race is today at Kentucky. Will Power is again on the pole, Graham Rahal also on the front row, Dario starting in 11th.
29 cars expected to make the start, I believe that is the most IndyCars we have ever had at KY, it should be a good race.
29 cars expected to make the start, I believe that is the most IndyCars we have ever had at KY, it should be a good race.
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