Those are flywheel numbers? Why post flywheel numbers, we want to know what the wheels are seeing not what your flywheel is seeing!
BOO! TO FLYwheel exageration of numbers!!!! :biggrin:
I'm just playing with you
Looks like you are going to have quite a monster on your hands.
When are you going to share the details of the set-up instead of teasing dyno threads?
J. R.
Still 3.0?the setup has a built bottom end, sleaved w/ low comp pistons..
man it is Wheel.... it is a "glitch" in the software, it ALWAYS says flywheel.....
what kinda details do you want?
Not sure if he's brave or just crazy... do you remember this post... same guy...Already running it on the dyno after only 100 miles on fresh engine? your brave.
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6917401blacks4 said:Re: not bad for only 2 pulls
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sure...STOCK clutch and STOCK engine, upgraded fuel system and AMS ecu.
i wasnt there but autowave said that the clutch started slipping as soon as boost hit, which was 8 psi about 3500... according to them it hit hard as hell They said that with the clutch slipping so bad and using the registared speed VS RPM that its a safe bet that the HP numbers are closer to 450...with all that...the car had about 68,XXX miles on it and i think i lost the typical ring...care runs OK but with boost it blows...
time for a teardown....and a BIG rebuild...
Not sure if he's brave or just crazy... do you remember this post... same guy...
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69174
01blacks4 - I respect your enthusiasm pushing the envelope... I'm just glad it's on your dime and not mine. ;-) You don't seem to be too cautious even after blowing your last motor and dropping $$ on a big rebuild.
actually not brave...just understand what is going on....motor just needs to go thru a few heat cycles and it is fine...most engine builders would break in the engine on the dyno, why not this one...Just need those rings to expand
As far as blowing my last motor you make it sound like it was me that did it...
you drop you car off at the tuner, and get a call 2 minutes after its on the dyno "ahh your motor blew up", then you look at the "tune" that was supposed to be on the car and find 12 deg timing advance with 8 pounds of boost on a stock bottom end....it goes BOOM.
ya ask the shop what happened and they say, he man sorry we only go one pull....
Now i have never blamed tham and i would never bash them...@%$ happenes and yeah it sucks it happened to me. but blaming, finger pointing and whinning on a public forum doesnt do anyone any good. (ok maybe it helps all the FI haters in the world)
while it may be difficult to convey on a public forum, trust me, i am over cautious.
I, like others that are going this route have goals they want to achieve, and know how to get there.
I do appreciate your concern though....
marc
Not sure if he's brave or just crazy... do you remember this post... same guy...
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69174
01blacks4 - I respect your enthusiasm pushing the envelope... I'm just glad it's on your dime and not mine. ;-) You don't seem to be too cautious even after blowing your last motor and dropping $$ on a big rebuild.
J.R, I agree that looking at the maps the gt35r and 62-1 should see full boost by 3500, but if you go back and look at dyno charts none actually do. It is all @ about 4000.
The 62-1 has a .58 ar and a stage 5 wheel.
As far as the thermal coating, yes I agree if the turbo was closer to engine (block). but you must agree that the with the turbo as far away as it is....the heat build up is greatly reduced (unfortunately) and there for the amount of loss due to coatings that you describe is questionable, if even measurable. Actually it could be argued that the coating on the headers…increases flow enough due to the length and control of the heat.
It could also be argued that the coating will help future heat expansions which would help control cracking…and since that turbo is hanging way at the end of those headers (I do have a mount for it though) cracking is something that may be an issue….
while i know your a greddy guy, here is the turbonetics chart
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/downloads/techdata/TurboMatrix.pdf
as you see the turbo i have picked VS the engne size equates to 500hp. which is where im at (after some more tuning ).
Hey marc,
I was actually only talking about the coating after the turbo. YOU WANT TO KEEP ALL THE HEAT you can before the turbo, but get rid of it after. Anyway, I am tired and don't feel like typing out all the physics involved with the Ideal Gas Law, but I'll call you tomorrow and you can pick my brain all you want. T-mobile is FREE ON THE WEEKEND! Woot! Talk my ear off for all I care. :biggrin:
J. R.