Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax? JH4NA1285TT000234

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Need advice from the experienced NSX owners, please.

Just test drove a '96 with 67k (VIN JH4NA1285TT000234, if anyone can Carfax it for me). Owner has had it for 8 months, bought it from a guy who bought it from an insurance company (all of this according to the owner). No records on maintenance. He said it had had damage to the right rear panel and it had been replaced. Owner said he had the alignment tested and it was clean (says he's got the paperwork, but didn't have it with him).

Drove fine, as far as this unsophisticated consumer could tell. Looks pretty good (fair-to-good, with same disclaimer that I'm not very experienced).

He's asking $29,500 but willing to take $28,000. He's fine with me taking it to the dealership and having them look it over (they say they'll charge me $180). Does this sound promising (given the low price) or scary (given no maintenance records, insurance company owner, accident, etc.)?

Should I go for it, or pass? Thanks for any help.
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

Was it just in an accident and repaired, or is it a salvage title. Big difference. To find history on maint. look at the city that the car was titled in according to CARFAX. Call the local Acura dealers in the area with the VIN and see if they worked on it. You would be surprised how much info you can find out.
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

I'm not personally all that afraid of a wrecked car that's been fixed correctly. It will never be worth as much as a virgin one, but the asking price reflects that.

Ask yourself if you'd rather have a '96 with a history or a mint low mileage well maintained '91 for the same price. Personally I'd go with the older one, but that's just a personal decision.
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

Doug, thanks for writing. I don't know ... I just assumed that if the insurance company held title that they must have declared it "totalled" at some point. Can you explain the difference between salvage title and the alternative? And, if the damage wasn't very big, why would an insurance company have title? Sorry, but your dealing with a car neophyte :confused: here.

PS: Can someone run a CARFAX? Appreciated.
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

Dave, thanks. Do you think taking it to the dealer and having them give it the once-over will tell me what I need to know about a repaired car?
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

My NSX2avoid database says this about this NSX :

1996 Red/Black NSX-T. Spun into a wall at the track October 2003. Primary impact front, secondary impact rear.

the information is shown to have been collected from this forum

Hope this helps, although news are not too good...
Alex
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

Is this the first NSX you ever test drove? If so, how can you be sure if that car runs fine, since you have no prior experience for comparison.

the price for PPI sounds about right, although I remember my cost was around $140. PPI can only tell you the current status of the car, they won't be able to give you enough information such as if the require maintenance has been performed or not.

Nothing against car with past accident, but you have to understand NSX is not that cheap to fix.

***need to get all records from previous owner***


Good luck
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

Wow, Alex, thanks. I think I'll pass, but I have loved looking at this car (from afar) ever since they first came out. The one I drove today was my first. Maybe someday. :)
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

kent said:
your dealing with a car neophyte :confused: here.

then run away from this car. For the same $$$ make yourself a favor and buy an earlier model with maintenance papers and a clear title. NSX are not like your usual car and if the insurance totalled it, it was because it cost more to fix it than have it written-off. If someone still "fixed it" and made it worth his time and money, he must have had to cut corners somewhere, no ? (since the insurance estimated that it'd be too costly to fix). my advice is to run, run away !
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

NSXWIND, thanks. You're right ... I have no basis for comparison other than what any car should feel like. What I meant is that there were no obvious driving flaws ...
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

kent said:
NSXWIND, thanks. You're right ... I have no basis for comparison other than what any car should feel like. What I meant is that there were no obvious driving flaws ...

Since you're in CA, why don't you hook up with someone there to have a test drive and learn the ropes from someone who already went through this. It'll save you time and $$$ and will make it a much more enjoyable experience in the long run. Good luck to ya ! ;)
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

Hey Kent

I am in Temple City 91780, always glad to help out another member. If you are not too far away from me, then we can arrange a time to meet so you can test drive/ride my NSX :D
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

I remember this NSX from NSXPO 2003! Wow, it's back already...

Here's the carfax:

ALERT! Severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.


CARFAX Talking CarTM
The story of this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
This coupe has had 7 owners and was owned in California. It was originally registered as a commercial lease vehicle. The leasing company actually owned this vehicle and collected payments from a commercial company until the vehicle was sold or the lease expired. These vehicles are typically used for business purposes.
It was severely damaged and issued a Salvage and Junk title by a DMV. It was later issued a Rebuilt title by a California DMV, which allows for the vehicle to be repaired and returned to the road.
It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 7,906 miles per year, which is lower than the industry average of 15,000. The last odometer reading, reported on 09/05/2004, was 67,689 miles.
It was not reported to a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).
Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an extended warranty with your dealer.
Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and a glossary of terms.


Report Summary
1. ACCIDENT CHECK

Total Loss Check Severe Accident or Total Loss Event Reported to DMV
Other Accident Indicators No Accident Indicators Reported
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK

Truth-In-Mileage Check No Odometer Problems Reported to DMV
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check No Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
3. LEMON CHECK®
No Mfr. Buyback Reported to DMV
4. OWNERSHIP CHECK

Number of Owners 7 Estimated Owner(s)
Type of Owners Originally Registered as a Commercial Lease Vehicle
5. RECALL CHECK
ACURA Does Not Report Recalls to CARFAX
6. WARRANTY CHECK
No Coverage Remaining on Basic Warranty. Interested in an Extended Warranty?
DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 31 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED
Tell us what you know about this vehicle







Year/Make/Model: 1996 ACURA NSX-T

Body Style: COUPE
Engine: 3.0L V6 PFI DOHC 24V
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: JAPAN
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Dual front air bags/active (manual) belts

Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM Cassette, Power Brakes, Removable roof, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer


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Total Loss Check:


ALERT! Severe damage events were reported by a DMV for this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.

Salvage Title Reported No Loss Due To Fire Title Reported
Junk Title Reported No Flood Damage Title Reported
Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Reported No Hail Damage Title Reported
No Dismantled Title Reported No Canadian Total Loss Record Reported

Other Accident Indicators:


This 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234) had no accident indicators reported to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for accidents and/or related damage reported from many public and private sources. Not all accidents are reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or professional mechanic is recommended.

No Salvage Auction Record Reported No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
No Fire Damage Record Reported No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
No Police Accident Record Reported No Damage Disclosure Record Reported


CARFAX depends on public and private sources for its accident data. Each one of these sources has different processing times. CARFAX can only report what is in our database on 28.Oct.2004 22:08:16. New data will result in a change to this report.
Not all accidents are reported to the Police. Tell us if you know of other fender benders, accidents or damage.

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Truth-In-Mileage Check:


None of the following major odometer problems were ever reported by a DMV under the Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234).

Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer.
Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses an odometer rollover.


Odometer Rollback Check:


CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234). Rollbacks reported in this section originate from readings collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.

Mileage Consistency Check:


CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234).

Date: Mileage:
02/14/1996 25
12/19/1997 6,868
03/05/1998 7,173
07/28/1998 8,031
09/09/1998 8,929
09/28/1998 9,924
01/07/1999 15,993
05/24/1999 23,398
01/13/2000 37,652
01/20/2000 38,120
03/23/2000 41,116
06/15/2000 45,353
12/11/2000 52,917
08/28/2001 55,666
02/08/2002 57,995
10/30/2003 65,568
05/10/2004 65,580
05/13/2004 65,584
06/13/2004 65,679
09/05/2004 67,689



Average miles driven per year 7,906 CARFAX AdvisorTM Compare this vehicle's average annual mileage to the industry average of 15,000 miles per year. Use this comparison to determine how this vehicle was driven.

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No manufacturer buyback was ever reported by a DMV for this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234).

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Ownership History:


CARFAX estimates that this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234) had 7 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.

Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
1st owner 02/29/1996 California
2nd owner 03/18/1998 California
3rd owner 10/20/1998 California
4th owner 10/30/2003 California
5th owner 05/10/2004 California
6th owner 06/13/2004 California
7th owner 09/05/2004 California

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Types of Owners:


This 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234) was originally registered as a Commercial Lease Vehicle.

No Personal Use Registration Reported No Fleet Registration Reported
Lease Registration Reported Commercial Registration Reported
No Rental Registration Reported No Non-Profit Registration Reported
No Taxi Registration Reported No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record Reported

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ACURA does not report recall information for specific vehicles to CARFAX.
Go to the CARFAX SAFETY & RELIABILITY REPORT for recalls issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration for the 1996 ACURA NSX-T. You can also contact an authorized dealership or ACURA at 1-800-999-1009 to find out if this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234) still has recalls that require repair.

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For your convenience, CARFAX has estimated the remaining original manufacturer warranty coverage based on information reported to us on this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234). Please confirm remaining factory warranty and extended warranty options with your dealer. Interested in an extended warranty?

Estimated start date of warranty: 02/15/1996
Last reading reported on 09/05/2004: 67,689 miles Recalculate with current mileage
Today's Date: October 28, 2004

Type of Coverage: Original Warranty: Estimated Remaining Coverage:
Basic 48 months or 50,000 miles Coverage expired
Drivetrain 48 months or 50,000 miles Coverage expired
Emissions 24 months or 24,000 miles Coverage expired
Corrosion 60 months or unlimited mileage Coverage expired
Transferable Transferable at no cost Same
Roadside Assistance 48 months or 50,000 miles Coverage expired
Safety Belt & Inflatable Restraint No data reported to CARFAX
Specific Components 96 months or 80,000 miles Coverage expired
Notes: Manufacturer covers emissions components under basic warranty. Emissions coverage may vary by state. Refer to owners manual for specific details. Roadside assistance covered for 4 years or 50,000 miles. Warranty transferable at no cost to subsequent owners.




CARFAX Warranty Check provides an estimate of this vehicle's remaining warranty coverage. It does not take into account some vehicle history events. For example, major accidents resulting in Salvage or Junk titles that may void the original manufacturer warranty or ownership transfers that may decrease warranty coverage. This warranty information is only valid for vehicles manufactured for sale in the US. Complete warranty coverage information is available for this vehicle at the ACURA web site.


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CARFAX searched more than 3 billion records from over 5,300 sources and found 31 record(s) for this 1996 ACURA NSX-T (JH4NA1285TT000234).

Date:
Mileage Reading:
Source:
General Comments:


02/14/1996 25 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Odometer reading reported for title


02/15/1996 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Registered as
commercial lease vehicle


02/29/1996 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Title issued
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported
Registered as lease vehicle


12/19/1997 6,868 California
Inspection Station
Yorba Linda, CA
Passed emissions inspection


03/05/1998 7,173 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Odometer reading reported for title


03/18/1998 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Title issued
New owner reported


07/28/1998 8,031 California
Inspection Station
Sacramento, CA
Passed emissions inspection


07/31/1998 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed
State inspection completed
Emissions system serviced


09/09/1998 8,929 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Sacramento, CA
Odometer reading reported for title


09/28/1998 9,924 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


10/20/1998 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Title issued
New owner reported


01/07/1999 15,993 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
Miscellaneous service performed


05/24/1999 23,398 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


01/13/2000 37,652 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


01/20/2000 38,120 California
Inspection Station
Rancho Cordova, CA
Passed emissions inspection


02/03/2000 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Sacramento, CA
Title issued


03/23/2000 41,116 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


06/15/2000 45,353 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
Miscellaneous service performed


12/11/2000 52,917 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


08/28/2001 55,666 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


02/08/2002 57,995 California
Inspection Station
Sacramento, CA
Passed emissions inspection


10/30/2003 65,568 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Sacramento, CA
New owner reported
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED


11/30/2003 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED


05/10/2004 65,580 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Sun Valley, CA
New owner reported
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED


05/13/2004 65,584 California
Inspection Station
Passed emissions inspection


05/14/2004 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED


05/14/2004 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED


05/31/2004 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED


05/31/2004 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED


06/13/2004 65,679 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Inglewood, CA
New owner reported
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED


09/05/2004 67,689 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Sun Valley, CA
New owner reported
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED

Tell us what you know about this vehicle
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

apapada said:
My NSX2avoid database says this about this NSX :

1996 Red/Black NSX-T. Spun into a wall at the track October 2003. Primary impact front, secondary impact rear.

Alex

Is this a database that anyone can use? Or is it your personal database? If it's public, what is the link?

Thanks!
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

Phoen$x, thanks. Nice to know what a liar the seller of this car is. I wish I could warn the next potential victim about this car and how helpful this site is.

Thanks to all of you for saving me from a mistake.
 
Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

NSXWIND said:
Hey Kent

I am in Temple City 91780, always glad to help out another member. If you are not too far away from me, then we can arrange a time to meet so you can test drive/ride my NSX :D


:) Nice offer. You a golfer by any chance? Always looking for someone to kill half a day beating a little white ball around.
 
If it's the same one that was damaged at XPO last year, here are the pics:

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Re: Wrecked '96 - Should I buy? Carfax?

surferX said:
Is this a database that anyone can use? Or is it your personal database? If it's public, what is the link?

Thanks!

NSXWIND said:

I have compiled a database from different sources of information. When people ask for Carfax and the car turns with a bad title, or send me a pm with a car they know was totalled, or appears on Ebay, etc... The above link has lots of the info I have, but I'm afraid is not complete anymore. I have more entries than one can find following this link.
 
Those pictures make me want to cry! :(

But apparently she lives, has a good plastic surgeon, and is waiting for an unsuspecting victim...hmmm...reminds me of many of the women I meet at the bars in La Jolla and Del Mar. Ha ha. :cool:
 
you should be able to buff that out :D

Like somebody already said, you could find a clean 92-93 with 1-2 owners instead of 7 :eek: owners for that price range. The mileage might be a bit high, but then again you are shopping for a Honda ;)
 
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