Whoa, is this JZ's NSX?? Or Ebay FRAUD again??

[Zishan]

Heads up! Possible stolen pictures again. Asking for a $5000 deposit just like the other incident.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=5337&item=2425082315

 

[Brian2by2]

fishy...been selling mostly clothes and computer stuff in his history........

 

[nsxtasy]

Fishy... selling an NSX with no reserve and a $5000 starting bid.

 

[SNDSOUL]

that is definetly JZ's car. I guess we'll have to wait and see if it is really him who is selling it though

 

[blue wax]

here we go again ??

I can't believe this

geezzzzzzz

 

[Zishan]

Yeah, someone should PM or email him to make sure and give him the news. I'm about to leave work or I would do it....
Regards
Z

 

[SNDSOUL]

Yeah, someone should PM or email him to make sure and give him the news. I'm about to leave work or I would do it....
Regards
Z

I emailed and PM'ed him already.

 

[Black Knight]

yup, that looks like his car alright....

this guy is insulting this community....especially with that ridiculously low price. bring it up another $50k and it may be believable....4 bids as well...

 

[ak]

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[Zishan]

Man I didn't know it was this easy to hack ebay user ID. Maybe I should close mine up.

Good point! I also buy and sell things on Ebay a lot. Makes you wonder!

 

[JZ]

NSX for sale

The truth is.................. I am actually selling my car, but since i dont have a ebay account. I told a friend of mine to put in the process. I guess he just took my information and made a cheap presentation. lol, but other than a bunch of old pics, I am really considering let it go finally. Got another "Secret Project" i am currently working right now and have to let this one go. But best wish to whoever that wins the bid. Hope u can enjoy the car better than sitting in my garage. This car deserve a good owner who takes care of the car and "drive it" often. Also feel free to clean out my garage too. Got bunch of NSX parts laying around soon i will post for sale.
But i like to thank everybody here who post on this forum. I really felt the love from NSX community today. Gotta admit that no other car community will ever do this. U guys are the BEST!

 

[GQ NSX]

Holy sh==!

Guys I think what we should do is make the photo gallery "member only" like how the Supraforums.com guys do.

I don't know, just a thought...this is just sickening.



ravi

edit: when i saw this post jz hadn't said all that ahha..

best of luck in sellin the car jz, i really like it. You aren't by any chance the rapper Jay-z are ya? hahah

 

[NSX/MR2]

The name can be confusing if you are new to this board.

 

[Yellow Rose]

Ebay Question

In recent days, we have seen a couple of NSXs listed for sale by Mr. X, who did not own the vehicles. As despicable as this is, will the real owners of said NSXs come to harm? I think not, but I'd like some assurance.

Let's say an innocent victim sends in the requested "down payment" and the scammer skips town. Innocent victim is out the money and the scammer burns for eternity. However, the real owner of the NSX still keeps his car because he has not relinquished the title, right?

The reason I ask is this - on the two threads pertaining to these two Ebay bogeys, many people were saying stuff like, "We gotta look out for our fellow NSXers." I take this to mean that we band together to protect the real NSX owner. But this is not necessary because of the title, right?

No flames please, I am sensitive to people that get ripped off, but in the text of this post I am taking the perspective of the NSXer that is not selling their car which is on Ebay as for sale. In other words, if you posted on Ebay that my NSX was for sale, I should have no fear that it would be "taken from me", right?

 

[Doug]

Ebay is about "buyer beware" not "real owner beware". You have the car and title...no worries. Besides, how would the buyer/seller really know who owns the car and where it is located if it is a bogus listing.

 

[Zishan]

JZ, PM sent.
Regards
Z

 

[jlindy]

Re: Ebay Question

In recent days, we have seen a couple of NSXs listed for sale by Mr. X, who did not own the vehicles. As despicable as this is, will the real owners of said NSXs come to harm? I think not, but I'd like some assurance.

Let's say an innocent victim sends in the requested "down payment" and the scammer skips town. Innocent victim is out the money and the scammer burns for eternity. However, the real owner of the NSX still keeps his car because he has not relinquished the title, right?

The reason I ask is this - on the two threads pertaining to these two Ebay bogeys, many people were saying stuff like, "We gotta look out for our fellow NSXers." I take this to mean that we band together to protect the real NSX owner. But this is not necessary because of the title, right?

No flames please, I am sensitive to people that get ripped off, but in the text of this post I am taking the perspective of the NSXer that is not selling their car which is on Ebay as for sale. In other words, if you posted on Ebay that my NSX was for sale, I should have no fear that it would be "taken from me", right?

Yes, we must protect our fellow NSXers, but that doesn't limit it to the owner of the vehicle that is being misrepresented. Obviously, not all NSXers currently own an NSX. They are looking to purchase their first, second, etc. NSX and may be bidding on these crap auctions and heaven forbid, actually thinking they will win their dream car. A true NSXer in my mind is a state of mind. You don't have to currently own one to be an enthusiast. All you have to really do is sit behind the wheel of one, once and your hooked. We must protect the consumers as well. Hell, someone on this site could have been bidding on it and this thread saved them their life savings.

 

[Brian2by2]

I agree with Lindy...we're not some college fraternity who beats up on pledges...if someone wants to become an NSXer and join our community, then we do everything possible to help make sure that their transition into the car goes smoothly.

Thats why we run CarFax's for new people, thats why people drive sometimes a hundred or so miles to check out a car for someone who can't, thats why we have references on our site for new NSXers who are new to buying an NSX...

We can't just look out for those who already own one because truth is, they know alot more and are much better prepared to take care of themselves. Its the new people who don't have a car yet that need some guidance in buying the car. They're not just buying any ol Ford or Hyundai...its an exotic car and each one is hand built, therefore, they're different.

Now, if we can't stop people from scamming interested buyers, than we'll put a sour taste in alot of peoples mouths. I know if I got ripped off for $5k by someone selling an NSX, i'd have a little sour of a taste in my mouth...thats just me though.

So in closing, yes we have to look out for each other...but at the same time, we have to look out for new recruits too.

There is no hazing on NSXPRIME.com

 

[Zishan]

Re: Ebay Question

In recent days, we have seen a couple of NSXs listed for sale by Mr. X, who did not own the vehicles. As despicable as this is, will the real owners of said NSXs come to harm? I think not, but I'd like some assurance.

Let's say an innocent victim sends in the requested "down payment" and the scammer skips town. Innocent victim is out the money and the scammer burns for eternity. However, the real owner of the NSX still keeps his car because he has not relinquished the title, right?

The reason I ask is this - on the two threads pertaining to these two Ebay bogeys, many people were saying stuff like, "We gotta look out for our fellow NSXers." I take this to mean that we band together to protect the real NSX owner. But this is not necessary because of the title, right?

No flames please, I am sensitive to people that get ripped off, but in the text of this post I am taking the perspective of the NSXer that is not selling their car which is on Ebay as for sale. In other words, if you posted on Ebay that my NSX was for sale, I should have no fear that it would be "taken from me", right?

Not a flame, but "if" someone was selling my car on Ebay, I would definately want to know instead of having cops show up at my door asking me questions.
I've sent JZ a PM regarding this and an appology for jumping to conclusions. Hopefully I haven't offended anyone here.
Regards
Z

 

[Jim]

This NSX does not have a reserve???

 

[NemesisX]

Well ive been lurking on here for at least 6 months and finally decided to take the time to register and chime in on this subject...

First of all...I REALLY like this forum and it seems that most of the NSX owners are truly a rare, great breed of people that show alot of common sense (that seems a rarity sometimes)..

Second, In regards to people scamming others using Ebay, I definatly think that the person whos car is being used should be notified and take nessesary precautions to protect his name and property. Other than that, I dont know what others can do except to notify ebay, the police and other authorities (which it sounds like it will fall on deaf ears).

My MAIN point is that the "buyer beware!" I dont know about you, but i wouldnt send a DIME to anyone without looking at the car in person. (and that includes having to travel across country)
If they cant hold the car til I get there...so be it. (That why its so great that people will look and scrutinize potential cars for others who may not be able to see it right away)
Scams unfortunatly happen everyday!! Some can be averted by using common sense and simply protecting yourself. Most Scams I believe happen because people GIVE their money away, the money is coaxed from them(unless your being held at gunpoint then thats another matter). Ive been scammed a couple times and have had the misfortune of looking like a fool. That has taught me VALUABLE lessons....
Scams will ALWAYS happen. They will always evolve to fool more people...ebay is just another tool. Ive used ebay once for a $175 computer part...turns out I was OK... but i try not to push my luck with ebay. I DO feel sorry for those that have lost MUCH money on scams but I think people will fall for them on the promises of riches, supergreat deals, something for nothing...etc etc
So I think the only thing people can do is watch out for yourself, and report the scams...people will do what they want to do and unfortunatly it will probably cost someone 5K to learn an expensive lesson.

Sorry to be so blunt...dont mean to sound so harsh...
just my $.0000002,
Stepping off the soapbox (cause it broke)

 

[Juice]

What happened? It's no longer listed. I wonder if he sold it already. What's up JZ?