While Honda is stuck....GT-R's Banzai attack continues....

[liftcontrol]

Ultimate 550 hp GT-R V-Spec
Not content with lapping the Nürburgring at an eye watering 7 minutes and 38 seconds, Nissan’s Banzai Engineers are preparing an even meaner and much leaner version of their sublime GT-R supercar.

The car will use the much vaunted “V-Spec” moniker. There is plenty of speculation in the press regarding this model as there appears to be an unabated demand for news and information on the newly released Nissan GT-R.

British motor magazine, AutoExpress, have run their own article in which they suggest the 473 hp VR38DETT twin turbo 3.8L V6 is in for a 16% power boost. That means the V-Spec GT-R will produce around a giddy 550 hp. To ensure that extra 77 hp is not developed in vain, the GT-R will also be in for a diet which will lead to around 150kg trimmed off the cars overall weight.

The GT-R already has an ultra low CD figure of 0.27 but the V-Spec version will get a bespoke body kit which should help create down force and increase stability in fast sweeping corners.

It’s difficult to imagine an even harder edged version of the standard GT-R as it seems such a focused track weapon already. But Nissan clearly want to offer the prospective GT-R purchaser a complete set of models, much in the same way Porsche offer Turbo, GT3 and GT2 versions of the standard 911.

Expect the Super GT-R to come at a premium over the standard car, which means at least £20,000 sterling more than the rumoured £55,000 starting price when it comes to British shores.
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I fully expect the NSX replacement, when it does show up, to be too little and too late to the party. And with the way Toyota is continuing the tease with the LF-A, its fate may be no better than the NSX's. The GT-R is going to eat their cake. Even if the uber V-spec is in the range of $90,000 when it shows up, it would still be a real bargain compared to its increasingly overpriced European competition.

I salute Nissan for their guts. It is time for their glory.

 

[Doc C]

The LF-A already has a 7:24 turned in. Granted, it may not be the true production version, and the time may not be official etc... But, even if you add 15-20 seconds to that, it's still a heck of a time and will be very much competitive with many elite cars in the world. I agree with you about the GT-R though. It sounds amazing. I also agree that the next NSX will be too little too late. Acura has become the "Oldsmobile" of Honda. Great cars for reliability, but milk toast styling and performance!!

I still think the GT-R should have been an Infiniti rather than a Nissan, but either way it's still a great car and will do a lot for that marque.

 

[skynet0419]

I saw the GT-R in person yesterday at the Chicago AutoShow and i was really wowed by it.

Im considering picking one up, but i think ill wait a year and see what (if anything) goes wrong

 

[liftcontrol]

SkyNet, I am thinking the same thing for a few good reasons.

Waiting for one model year or so will likely bring out any new car glitches and fixes. It will also give time for more info about the V-spec and it is actually the V-spec that I am more interested in.

Waiting for one model year will also cause the Nissan dealers to come back down to earth somewhat and the likelihood of a fair deal would be increased.

Perhaps more importantly, that time will give us a better picture of the real facts about the NSX replacement and the LF-A as far as specs and pricing is concerned.

All good things come to those who wait. But I feel as though I have been waiting for an eternity for the next NSX.

Doc C, I agree that the LF-A sounds great if the 'Ring numbers are real but we still have no clue as to whether it will be priced like a super Exotic or a "value" exotic. The most I would pay for an LF-A, no matter how accomplished, is $150k. Ditto the NSX replacement. The V-spec GT-R, even if priced $30k more than the "base" GT-R, would still be no more than a 100K.

Nissan has truly thrown a spoiler into the mix and the enthusiasts are the ones to benefit. :wink:

 

[skynet0419]

SkyNet, I am thinking the same thing for a few good reasons.

Waiting for one model year or so will likely bring out any new car glitches and fixes. It will also give time for more info about the V-spec and it is actually the V-spec that I am more interested in.

Waiting for one model year will also cause the Nissan dealers to come back down to earth somewhat and the likelihood of a fair deal would be increased.

Perhaps more importantly, that time will give us a better picture of the real facts about the NSX replacement and the LF-A as far as specs and pricing is concerned.

All good things come to those who wait. But I feel as though I have been waiting for an eternity for the next NSX.

Doc C, I agree that the LF-A sounds great if the 'Ring numbers are real but we still have no clue as to whether it will be priced like a super Exotic or a "value" exotic. The most I would pay for an LF-A, no matter how accomplished, is $150k. Ditto the NSX replacement. The V-spec GT-R, even if priced $30k more than the "base" GT-R, would still be no more than a 100K.

Nissan has truly thrown a spoiler into the mix and the enthusiasts are the ones to benefit. :wink:

pretty much my thoughts exactly :biggrin:

 

[Akira]

Funny thing is, it was Honda who was pushing Nissan around 10 years ago. NSX Type-S, Type-S Zero, and Type-R. Now, Honda doesn't even have a car in the same league. Sad really.... I don't have a car I can upgrade to within Honda. My cars were...

Prelude (1997)
S2000 (2001)
S2000 (2005)
Civic Si Sedan (2008)
????

 

[5inchfatlip]

Sadly I've given up on Honda and Acura for a serious car like the NSX. The new RL is ...YUCK.... and thats the flagship?? ...ouch.

O well, count me in on another sports car from a different brand...

 

[NetViper]

. Even if the uber V-spec is in the range of $90,000 when it shows up, it would still be a real bargain compared to its increasingly overpriced European competition.

I salute Nissan for their guts. It is time for their glory.

I read the Spec-V was actually going to be $150,000.

 

[AdnanVCS]

I still think when the new NSX come's in production it will knock out the competition like the first NSX's did nearly 18 years ago.

I except it to have every thing the first NSX head and better hope it will be a huge stap a head like the first one.

 

[Jonmarsh]

I still think when the new NSX come's in production it will knock out the competition like the first NSX's did nearly 18 years ago.

I except it to have every thing the first NSX head and better hope it will be a huge stap a head like the first one.

I wish/hope you are correct, but I'm not seeing anything to indicate that's where Honda/Acura's managmeent is committed. Sometimes you have a turn-over or spin-out at the upper levels of a company that botches stuff up for a while. This whole waffling around on HSC then ASCC is indicative.

The most interesting/challenging stuff Honda is doing right now is their biz jet.

 

[jaytip nsx]

I still think when the new NSX come's in production it will knock out the competition like the first NSX's did nearly 18 years ago.

I except it to have every thing the first NSX head and better hope it will be a huge stap a head like the first one.

How? how could Honda repeat what it did with the NSX? Today's Porche/Ferrari,and indeed Nissan are so good that while Honda may make a car that compete's with them it won't make a car to better as it did before, unless it goes the same route as Nissan and makes a very good car for very little money(relatively speaking)

 

[sadlerau]

Speaking of the GTR, had my first look at one on the road yesterday. Impressive achievement it may be, but it aint no looker. I know looks are extremely subjective, but the car had no "road presence". I doubt if even a casual enthusiast will notice one driving down the road. Nope, does nothing for me, unlike the R34.

But then maybe I'm biased, and dissappointed about what Honda/Acura are achieving right now. :biggrin:

 

[BluryNSX]

well I for one have always been a "bleed honda blue" kinda guy ask anyone I know, and I don't totally agree with everyones views on the curent lineup the TSX, TL, RL all to me are great products and I actually like the way they look call me blind but I really do. Could they use some love with wheels simple body mods sure, but I think all are great starting points...I really am still hopefull that they are smart enough to come back with a new NSX