Which one offers the best performance and reliability? Turbo or Superchage?

[topdaytrader]

Which one offers the best performance and reliability? Turbo or Superchage?

 

[Zuerst]

If ya want monster performance go with Turbo.
If ya want reliability and low maintence go with SC.

 

[true]

Originally posted by Zuerst:
If ya want monster performance go with Turbo.

What does monster performance have to do with a turbo?

If ya want reliability and low maintence go with SC.

What is the criteria you are using to make the decision that a supercharger is more reliable and requires less maintainence?

These are the types of comments that jade.

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[This message has been edited by true (edited 12 June 2002).]

 

[hk4site]

The compression ratio's on a NSX are to high to run a turbo or sc effectly, 8 or 9 to one would be better. A postive displacement sc is good at low rpm's a turbo is better a higher rpm. If you want to try different mods buy an ols mustang they sc really nicely

 

[5inchfatlip]

Turbos are great when working but can cause lots of issues- first of all HEAT!! Heat up the engine compartment- and works best with an intercooler...otherwise hot days will lag...might deal with boost issues too..I sold my Rx7 due to lots of problems like this, although the setup is very complex compared to an aftermarket NSX single setup..

 

[sjs]

Originally posted by hk4site:
The compression ratio's on a NSX are to high to run a turbo or sc effectly, 8 or 9 to one would be better. A postive displacement sc is good at low rpm's a turbo is better a higher rpm...

The first sentence is far too broad to be useful to anyone and the second is simply wrong.

I won't repeat myself here, but search the forums for lot's of info (some of it even accurate). Search for my posts and the word turbo for several IMO summaries by me.

 

[Lud]

Originally posted by topdaytrader:
Which one offers the best performance and reliability? Turbo or Superchage?

This is an unanswerable question. I think you need to do some more research on forced induction, then come back and ask any questions you have at that point.

 

[NSXTC]

Indeed. What you are asking is analogous to this question:

What offers the most return and security? Stocks or Bonds?

 

[topdaytrader]

Where can a intercooler install on a turbo NSX?

 

[NSXTC]

the two most popular places are

above the motor:

<img src=http://a1.g.akamai.net/7/1/5509/909735029/autospeed.com/site/autospeed/images/0035_02lo.jpg>


and behind the rear wheels:

<img src=http://www.cartech.net/nsxdualexhaust.jpg>


Just promise me YOU won't try to build your own turbo system. ENGINE GO BOOM!!




[This message has been edited by NSXTC (edited 14 June 2002).]

 

[Zuerst]

Originally posted by true:
What is the criteria you are using to make the decision that a supercharger is more reliable and requires less maintainence?

These are the types of comments that jade.

Well, the only NSX that I'm aware of that's got 500+ HP have turbo. And I heard less horror stories about SC then Turbo, so I'm just drawing some estimates from what I have heard.

These are the comments that jade? Say what? Sorry English is my 3rd language so I don't know what other meanings jade has other then that stone thingy. So I look it up and this is what I find...
"jade - offensive term: an offensive term for a woman that describes her as immoral or quarrelsome (archaic)"
Now I don't quite understand how my post is offensive. But I guess you know more about forums then I do so I'll do as you do. You commented on my posts, so I guess I'll comment on your post. Your post is the type that makes me feel unwelcome and less likely to visit a place again.

 

[topdaytrader]

What kind problem does turbo have? Any turbo NSX owner experience problems? How long does a turbo & SC last?

 

[mlambert890]

Zuerst,

I think what True meant by "comments that jade" was that those type of comments make you "jaded". Meaning, misinformation can make you automatically skeptical about what you read, in this case, on web forums.

Any evidence for or against either a Turbo or SC system is going to be annectodal.

The topic really is too broad to sum up like that and both systems will work. There has been a lot written on the topic and there are members here with SC setups and members with Turbo setups.

Best bet is to search the forced induction topics, learn about the differences between turbo and SC systems, evaluate your budgetary requirements and email some owners.

I know people like easy answers, but it just isn't possible for someone to say "SC's are better, Turbos last 3 years and SCs last 5 years".

There are endless variables involved. It's a highend purchase for a car like the NSX; as painful as it is, you have to do extensive research to educate yourself before jumping into it...

[This message has been edited by spookyp (edited 14 June 2002).]

 

[Zuerst]

Originally posted by spookyp:
Zuerst,

I think what True meant by "comments that jade" was that those type of comments make you "jaded". Meaning, misinformation can make you automatically skeptical about what you read, in this case, on web forums.

Any evidence for or against either a Turbo or SC system is going to be annectodal.

The topic really is too broad to sum up like that and both systems will work. There has been a lot written on the topic and there are members here with SC setups and members with Turbo setups.

Best bet is to search the forced induction topics, learn about the differences between turbo and SC systems, evaluate your budgetary requirements and email some owners.

I know people like easy answers, but it just isn't possible for someone to say "SC's are better, Turbos last 3 years and SCs last 5 years".

There are endless variables involved. It's a highend purchase for a car like the NSX; as painful as it is, you have to do extensive research to educate yourself before jumping into it...

[This message has been edited by spookyp (edited 14 June 2002).]

Yea... Sometimes having English as a 3rd language is a pain in the *ss. I guess comparing the two would be like asking if a mod'ed NSX is faster then a mod'ed F355 or the other way around...

 

[topdaytrader]

Do you have turbo or sc install in your car? pros & cons?

 

[Forums Nazi]

This has been discussed at length here before. Do a search.

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[This message has been edited by Forums Nazi (edited 16 September 2002).]

 

[topdaytrader]

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[NSXTC]

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[Gerry Johnson]

I have a single Turbo NSX that makes over 500 HP and invite anyone interested in a ride
to E-mail me and we can set up a day and time to get together, I live in Modesto CA. and build engines at Performance Autoworx, I also offer discounted parts and labor ($50.00 hr) for NSX owners.

 

[Si]

Originally posted by Gerry Johnson:
I have a single Turbo NSX that makes over 500 HP and invite anyone interested in a ride
to E-mail me and we can set up a day and time to get together, I live in Modesto CA. and build engines at Performance Autoworx, I also offer discounted parts and labor ($50.00 hr) for NSX owners.

Awesome Gerry! Did you engineer the turbo system yourself?

 

[Gerry Johnson]

Yes, I did all the designing and building of the turbo kit, also all the motor and engine management upgrades, however Comptech did the Darton sleeve install and the block gaurds. Thank you for the good word.

 

[MYNSX]

The answer would be dependant on how much horsepower/which unit/and definatly who installs it.I do think the turbo may be a better alternative for those who seek 500-1000 plus horsepower.
PS...this comes from someone who has run 1000 plus supercharged hp(NO,NOT ON AN NSX).
and currently runs a BBSC Super charger WHICH I LOVE!!