I was following the NSX market at that time. Then, as now, I knew a lot of dealers and new owners. I know what new NSXs were selling for - when customers were overpaying, and when they were getting a good deal.
Did you also know who was going to win that year's World Series? How about the next week's Powerball numbers? Did you also know those? I wish I had been best friends with you then as I am now....you could've given me great stock tips without me being accused of insider trading.
nsxtasy said:
At the end of the 1991 model year, NSXs were selling for around sticker price, which was $62,600 on a '91. If you got a smokin' good deal, you could get them for a grand or two less than sticker, and then you had to pay a luxury tax of around $3,000 on top of that. A great deal was $63K including the luxury tax. Nobody was buying them for less than $60K (with tax). NOBODY.
I believe the MSRP on the '91s I was speaking of was $60K. I never heard of that model year with no options stickering for almost $63K. The invoice of 51,
xxx was on the cars with stickers of $60K. These deals were had
halfway through the
'92 model year; in roughly 6 months 1993s were due out. Paying sticker price for a year and a half year old car, albeit new, was a stupid proposition, especially given the exotic market had crashed in calendar 1991.
You believe everything that comes out of these clowns' mouths? Knowing an owner does not make you privy to his P&L statements nor every car transaction. By the way, beacuse you're so close to these owners do you buy your cars at true cost or do you get suckered for
$xx above some fictitious invoice? Back in the fall of '98 a local Acura dealer had a '93 black NSX in
rough condition and the used car manager volunteered he paid $40K for the car. I thought that was utterly laughable and casually mentioned the disclosure to another dealer who proceeded to tell me that that car was bought for less than $30K. So much for believing these peoples' claims.
Not everyone got shafted for 10 or 20 over, or even MSRP on new NSXs. There were (and are) deals to be had, especially at the right time of year. You'd be surprised at what a little negotiation nets some people.
The only BS flag that should be raised is on your supposed expertise of all matters, NSX, music, politics, whatever. See you at lunch tomorrow at our usual place buddy.