What should be done while in the doors?

[GreyHoundSteve]

Okay so i have my door panels off and the bose speakers out and some of the window fix thingys on there way. So what else should i do while i have the doors apart?

If anyone has done a great write up on lubing the window tracks or anything else in there please feel free to post up a link. I am terrible with the search function.:redface:

I also have a service manual but can't seem to find the page for taking the door apart to get to the window. Does anyone know what page this is on?

 

[davidf]

Steve I had my panels off and greased everything that moved, I mean everything. I went and bought some "spray" lithium grease at a parts store {about $6} and it came with the long nozzel to get in tight spots. I even lubed up the door lock assm. I left off the protective clear plastic in between the door panel since I rarely drive in the rain. Everything works 100% better.

 

[Jett]

...grease everything that moves...

Sage advice!:smile: Also, clean the contacts on the driver's side power window switch. This shouldn't take very long at all since you have the door opened up already. Then do the passenger side...

 

[KooLaid]

New speakers and mounting plates.

 

[GreyHoundSteve]

New speakers and mounting plates.

I got those from SOS already. I also have the door handle fixes ready to install as well.

I was just wondering if i need to pull the door fully apart to install the window fix thingys and if so what else should i do while i'm in there. If i can install those window thingys without pulling the door apart then GREAT. I can certainly hose it all down with some grease from where it is now.:biggrin:

 

[NSXclear]

Dali Fix-it Window Tips
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95894&highlight=dali+window

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84816&highlight=dali+window


Write-up for Window Adjustment

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73691&highlight=window+adjustment

Make sure you buy Genuine Honda Hi Temp Super Urea Grease. Do not use regular lithuim grease on the window rails. It will fail over time.

 

[GreyHoundSteve]

Dali Fix-it Window Tips
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95894&highlight=dali+window

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84816&highlight=dali+window


Write-up for Window Adjustment

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73691&highlight=window+adjustment

Make sure you buy Genuine Honda Hi Temp Super Urea Grease. Do not use regular lithuim grease on the window rails. It will fail over time.

Wow, i'm glad you mentioned this because i picked up a can of that Gunk brand white lithium grease spray and was just planning on using that.

Does the Honda stuff require removal of everything like the manual suggests or can it just be sprayed into the door on the areas that need it?

 

[NSXclear]

It is not a spray. It is in a plastic container that you apply by hand.

It is best to remove the rails and clean them thoroughly (remove all old grease). But this step involves more work. You will have to remove front and rear sash, window trim, moulding, etc.

But if your only giving them a light lube, then you can apply it with your fingers without removing anything. There is a thread somewhere on prime that tells you where you should apply the grease.

 

[GreyHoundSteve]

It is not a spray. It is in a plastic container that you apply by hand.

It is best to remove the rails and clean them thoroughly (remove all old grease). But this step involves more work. You will have to remove front and rear sash, window trim, moulding, etc.

But if your only giving them a light lube, then you can apply it with your fingers without removing anything. There is a thread somewhere on prime that tells you where you should apply the grease.

I have the service manual and it says to remove everything and lube both the inside of the two tracks and the regulator.

I have everything off of the interior of the doors but my windows are perfectly aligned and i didn't want to have to remove all that stuff because i don't think i will be able to get it back together myself without getting the dreaded wind noise at high speeds.

 

[NSXclear]

If your windows work pretty well and giving it a quick lube, then you don't have to remove everything. Just make sure you lube the tracks and window wheel guides.

 

[GreyHoundSteve]

If your windows work pretty well and giving it a quick lube, then you don't have to remove everything. Just make sure you lube the tracks and window wheel guides.

Thats the thing, i don't know what pretty well is for an NSX window? I can tell you that the windows on my 92 Acura Legend are allot faster but i've not seen another NSX side by side to compare to.

I did stick my finger in the the tracks and its extremely greasy. A gray sticky grease. I had thought about getting a paint mixing stick or something and wrapping a shop towel around the end and cleaning most of that grease out and then squirting some new grease in there but i don't know if that would be an improvement or make it worse.

My oem window thingys aren't distorted like the ones in the reference pictures for the replacements but i don't know it that means anything really.

I think i'm just going to leave everything alone until i get together a pile of money and then just take it to the dealer and have them take everything out and lube it all up for me the way the manual says to. I guess since it's not broken i shouldn't try fixing it but it just seemed logical since i already have the door pretty well apart.

I liked the idea of spraying lithium grease in there allot better.:redface:

 

[NSXclear]

You would know if your windows are extremely slow. I'm guessing that they work pretty well.

You need to clean off the old grease as best as possible. Then used your fingers to lube it up. Don't worry, I doubt you'll make it worst if your worried about that. Its the proper alignment that is more important and seems to effect the speed much more than the grease.

The only problem with lithium grease is that it won't last as long and doesn't work as well as the urea grease.

 

[Jett]

You would know if your windows are extremely slow.

I agree with this statement. If the windows seem okay, they are okay. Don't take anything apart; or it will become a b**tch to get back together.

...since it's not broken i shouldn't try fixing it...

Truer words were never spoken. If the windows seem to be working well, just do the best you can lubing everything up inside the doors and be done with it. If you do the best you can, then you will be fine. Don't create a nightmare for yourself by taking things apart.

 

[GreyHoundSteve]

I agree with this statement. If the windows seem okay, they are okay. Don't take anything apart; or it will become a b**tch to get back together.



Truer words were never spoken. If the windows seem to be working well, just do the best you can lubing everything up inside the doors and be done with it. If you do the best you can, then you will be fine. Don't create a nightmare for yourself by taking things apart.

Thanks for the confirmation guys. I kind of go nuts sometimes with maintenance stuff when i begin a project and so i thought perhaps i could improve the window speed or prevent some future problem by doing this while i was in there but it appears by all accounts that my window moves at the normal NSX window speed (too slow for the prestige of the car) and that i should just leave it alone until it actually becomes a problem and then take it all apart and do it the correct way.

 

[dablackgoku1234]

Where would one purchase Honda Urea Grease? The dealers up in Canada only carry Shin-Etsu Silicone grease.

 

[NSXclear]

Here is the part number. See if they can order it for you.

08798-9002 Grease, Urea
List $11.78

 

[NSXclear]

I just finished with my window this weekend.

The front and rear tracks were caked with dried grease. My windows were binding up badly and would hardly go up without assistance. Now my windows goes up easily and fast.

The front tracks are pretty easy to take out. Follow the manual very carefully, especially the clips for the window chrome trime (interior) and black outside window trim. The manual tells you where to put your flat head screwdriver on the clips.

The rear is a bit harder to take out. Removing the door locking rod was very difficult for me. It took hook tool that I bought from Harbor Freight used for removing radiator hoses to remove the door locking rod. I used a lot of force to remove it.

To remove the caked grease from the tracks, I sprayed it with engine degreaser. Then I sprayed it with silicone. Silicone spray works wonders to remove grease. Spray the plastic rectangle/square sping pads with silicone to remove all the old gunk. Lube the track and pads with Urea grease.

IMPORTANT: When reinstalling the tracks, instincts will tell you that the plastic spring pads going horizontal. Wrong. They go vertical. It doesn't really make sense, but they go this way. They are very difficult to get in horizontal and your windows will not go up and down.