Very expensive weatherstrip preservative!

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Acura sells a weatherstrip conditioning grease that couldn't cost more if it were made of 24 carat gold. $15 for a 1-inch bead out of a tube! Does anyone know what it's made of? This stuff had better work really, really well...
 
Griot's Garage recommends a 35 oz. rubber cleaner for 9.95 that removes any old silicone, waxes and dead rubber from the surface, prior to applying their 8 oz. rubber dressing at 9.95 that contains no silicone oils, petroleum distillates, waxes or other solvents that can harm the rubber over time. Point being, make sure you prep the surface prior to applying Acura's product, and make certain it doesn't contain the harmful solvents mentioned; if it does, you might want to try the Griot's for more $$$ but more product or another product.
 
You can also try BMW Gummi-Pflege, it costs less than $10 for a 75 ml (about 2.5 oz) tube, has a neat built-in applicator, and works extremely well.

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Russ
'91 black/black

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Zymol also makes an excellent product called Seal. I use a foam pad cut in half to apply it. Most of these products (soft rubber conditioners) contain a lot of glycerin - so if you have access to this you can just use it straight. Wipe on, allow to sit, then remove residue.
 
I used to detail while going to college and I used to and still do use Pledge on the leather, door seals door jambs etc. Your toughest decision will be what scent to use. Nice thing about it is if you get over spray on anything do not worry just wipe it off. If you have fine scratches on your gauge cluster it does wonders for covering them up and it remains perfectly clear when buffed out.

We used to Pledge entire cars before they went on the auction block (Covers a lot of scratches up).
 
Pledge consists of wax and silicone oils. It's a real bad idea to use it on rubber moldings and car exteriors.

Of course, if you're prepping a car for the auction block it's probably fine.
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I used to detail while going to college and I used to and still do use Pledge on the leather, door seals door jambs etc. Your toughest decision will be what scent to use. Nice thing about it is if you get over spray on anything do not worry just wipe it off. If you have fine scratches on your gauge cluster it does wonders for covering them up and it remains perfectly clear when buffed out.

We used to Pledge entire cars before they went on the auction block (Covers a lot of scratches up).



whatta FOOL...good thing you went to college
 
What part of the car do you use this weather stuff? Trying to picture it. Can you use this stuff in place of the old weather strip that goes on top and below the exterior "B" Pillars. Been trying to look for something like that.
 
Acura sells a weatherstrip conditioning grease that couldn't cost more if it were made of 24 carat gold. $15 for a 1-inch bead out of a tube! Does anyone know what it's made of? This stuff had better work really, really well...

I am sure it is made of Krytox (PFPE-Oil) from Dupont.
I know there is nothing better than this stuff for this purpose.

PFPE Oils are extremely expensive,- something around 250 USD/kg.
 
The weatherstrip conditioning grease myf16 referred to in post # 1 (back in 2002) was probably Shin-Etsu - p/n 08798-9013 - a silicone grease. Honda not only recommends using that on the weatherstrip around the doors, they also recommend using a silicone grease on the rubber seals and boots in the brakes and on the rubber boot around the end of the steering rack. Larry B has recommended putting some silicone on the ends of the rubber coolant lines when you replace them to help them go on easier.

Is:
1) silicone grease bad for rubber and Honda is actually recommending the wrong grease for the job, or
2) is silicone grease not bad for rubber and it's just a myth that it is (see post #2)?
 
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I think so, too...

The weatherstrip conditioning grease myf16 referred to in post # 1 (back in 2002) was probably Shin-Etsu - p/n 08798-9013 - a silicone grease...
Honda's Shin-Etsu grease (08798-9013) is ~3.5oz (almost 100grams) & lists for ~$15, as I'm staring at it right before me as I speak. . .

That's quite larger than "$15 for a 1-inch bead out of a tube" that the O.P. posted (years ago). A noticeably smaller ~1oz (30grams) syringe-like Shin-Etsu applicator also is offered (through Honda motorcycle/etc' vendors), I wonder if that's what the O.P. was referencing? I also am rather curious at what they were referencing!
 
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Personally, I'm not aware of any weatherstrip conditioning grease sold by Acura other than Shin-Etsu. Since the OP didn't state the price for a tube of the stuff but for a 1 inch bead, maybe $15 includes a bit of dealer markup and labor as well. I agree, $15 would be very expensive if that's just the parts cost. Maybe it wasn't Shin-Etsu and Acura (or just his dealership) sold some other weatherstrip conditioning grease back in 2002.

I have a tube of Shin-Etsu myself and have heard a couple of times that silicone isn't good for rubber. Fact or just urban myth?
 
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Is:
1) silicone grease bad for rubber and Honda is actually recommending the wrong grease for the job, or
2) is silicone grease not bad for rubber and it's just a myth that it is (see post #2)?

Silicone grease is not bad for rubber. It is fairly inert and does not interact with most materials. It does not swell or soften rubber as carbon-based greases and oils do; it is non-flammable, electrically insulating, and thermally conductive. It is commonly used to lubricate o-rings found in watches, waterproof camera cases, machine guns, Silly Putty, digestive tract gas reducer, and in retina repair as an artificial vitreous fluid. It's good stuff.

For decades, I have been using silicone spray to lubricate my vehicles' weatherstriping and have never noticed any problems.
 
For decades, I have been using silicone spray to lubricate my vehicles' weatherstriping and have never noticed any problems.[/quote]

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I also use pure silicone spray on all rubber (weatherstripping, hoses, wiring, CV boots, vacuum lines, fan belts, etc.) and have for many years (Walmart sells CRC Heavy Duty Silicone Spray for about $2 a can). Use it once a year and your rubber will outlive you. Do not use any petroleum based products on rubber, it will cause it to degenerate.
 
It is commonly used to lubricate o-rings found in watches, waterproof camera cases, machine guns, Silly Putty, digestive tract gas reducer, and in retina repair as an artificial vitreous fluid. It's good stuff.

For decades, I have been using silicone spray to lubricate my vehicles' weatherstriping and have never noticed any problems.

What, no mention of implants? :wink:
 
I also use pure silicone spray on all rubber (weatherstripping, hoses, wiring, CV boots, vacuum lines, fan belts, etc.) and have for many years (Walmart sells CRC Heavy Duty Silicone Spray for about $2 a can). Use it once a year and your rubber will outlive you.

Just bought some today and plan to clean/coat the window and targa rubber strips this week.
 
The real deal....
 

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You can also try BMW Gummi-Pflege, it costs less than $10 for a 75 ml (about 2.5 oz) tube, has a neat built-in applicator, and works extremely well.

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Russ
'91 black/black

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Yeah but where the hell can you get this anymore? I thought they stopped making it.
 
I have my car apart installing the DF headliner and noticed my driver/pass side weatherstrips torn though I had not noticed this before. Replacements are in the $400 a pr. range so take good care of those babies so you won't be making costly purchases like me.:frown:
 
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