Valve adjust experience

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I know there are other threads on adjusting the valves. So my post may not add a whole lot to the topic. But I adjusted the valves on my 97 this weekend and thought the experience might be useful to a few.

I used the Danoland DIY instructions. They are very useful and about 95% of what I needed. Interestingly enough it talks about removing the strut brace, but never actually says to do it. I was ready to remove the valve covers and said to myself it would be a lot easier if the strut brace were out of there. That generated additional work to deal with the engine hatch cover - which I removed and set aside rather than try to prop it up.

The valves on my NSX have never been adjusted that I know of. And the 97 is scheduled for the service at 30K, 60K then every 60K. My NSX had 63920 miles on it.

All of the valves were out of spec slightly, typically .001 or .002 loose. Cylinder #1 had an exhaust valve far out of spec. That caused me some trouble because the adjuster screw would not turn in any direction. It seems now that the screw was "all the way out" - the screws are captive. As you know #1 exhaust valves are a pain to work on. I had to use a short shaft screwdriver wrapped in a shop towel for grip to eventually get the screw to release. I have no idea why that valve alone was so out of spec.

I used the Honda gasket set that includes the main valve cover gasket, the six washer/grommets, and three doughnut seals. Couldn't find Honda Bond so I used Permatex Ultra gasket sealer/fixer.

I lost one cap nut when removing the front valve cover. I have no idea where it is.

After assembly, I started it. And I was shocked how much quieter the engine was at idle. The sewing machine sound was almost completely gone. The consistent tick tick tick I used to hear was gone - probably because the #1 exhaust sound. I can't prove the car is quicker - but it must be, right? :rolleyes:
 
Good to hear another DIYer getting the job done & saving some bucks.
Plan to do mine here soon once it kools down.
BTW did you also get new cam plugs or reused the old ones? If new let me know how much so i can compare prices & shop around. Thx bro.
 
Nice of you to share!

I also did this myself a couple of weeks ago. It was fairly easy and straightforward and I experienced similar improvements in valve train noise reduction with less ticking, and also a smoother engine that felt "tighter" somewhat.

About half of my valves were out of spec, mostly loose but some were tight. I don't think my car ever had them adjusted...
 
Good to hear another DIYer getting the job done & saving some bucks.
Plan to do mine here soon once it kools down.
BTW did you also get new cam plugs or reused the old ones? If new let me know how much so i can compare prices & shop around. Thx bro.

I did not replace nor remove the cam plugs since Danoland didn't say so.
 
I got it from Daliracing. It's OEM but you can do it with a generic one too, or without any special tool. It's a very simple, yet clever tool. It basically allows you to tighten the locknut without disrupting the sensitive adjusting screw. But always check the clearance again after tightening the lock nut!
 
I lost one cap nut when removing the front valve cover. I have no idea where it is.
It's always good to know where things like this are. I hope for it's not in the engine. :) Always remove them before you lift the cover is the key.
 
I sprung for the Honda/Acura valve adjusting tool and it made the job pretty easy. I was doing my timing belt, so I already had the strut brace out. In any case, re-inserting the rear valve cover is a pain, especially compared to the front cover. Its just too easy for the gasket to slip out of position while maneuvering the cover into place.

I had my valves adjusted at a dealer when the car had 30k mi (I was traveling too much with work to do it myself). At 47kmi, only 2 valves were out of nominal spec, and only by .001.
 
It's always good to know where things like this are. I hope for it's not in the engine. :) Always remove them before you lift the cover is the key.

True. But try as I did, I never found it. I don't think it is in the engine. The one I lost was one of the two that holds the coil covers. So the valve cover was still intact. The nut rolled some where toward the front of the car. So it was either captured somewhere in the engine compartment, or it hit the ground and rolled far away.
 
I sprung for the Honda/Acura valve adjusting tool and it made the job pretty easy. I was doing my timing belt, so I already had the strut brace out. In any case, re-inserting the rear valve cover is a pain, especially compared to the front cover. Its just too easy for the gasket to slip out of position while maneuvering the cover into place.

I had my valves adjusted at a dealer when the car had 30k mi (I was traveling too much with work to do it myself). At 47kmi, only 2 valves were out of nominal spec, and only by .001.

I agree about the rear valve cover. I hated banging it around too - scraping some of that beautiful red paint.
 
I agree about the rear valve cover. I hated banging it around too - scraping some of that beautiful red paint.

When I did mine this winter, I used the LarryB trick of putting a couple of dots of Permatex Hi-Tack sealant between the gasket and cover to hold it in place. It worked great- the gasket never slipped out or twisted despite all the wrangling.
 
When I did mine this winter, I used the LarryB trick of putting a couple of dots of Permatex Hi-Tack sealant between the gasket and cover to hold it in place. It worked great- the gasket never slipped out or twisted despite all the wrangling.

Not a bad idea to add couple of dots for the spark plug gaskets as well. Once you finally get the rear cover in place... put your (clean) finger into the 3 spark plug holes and feel for the lip of the spark plug gaskets to ensure all 3 are properly in place.

Then slightly lift each corner and confirm that the gasket is also in place. Run your hand along the entire permimeter of the cover to ensure a gasket isn't twisted or pinched. Last thing you want is find out that you've pinched something AFTER all the grommets, coils and nuts are mostly back in place...
 
When I did mine this winter, I used the LarryB trick of putting a couple of dots of Permatex Hi-Tack sealant between the gasket and cover to hold it in place. It worked great- the gasket never slipped out or twisted despite all the wrangling.

That is exactly what I did - I couldn't find HondaBond so I used Permatex. I had no problems with the gaskets. My problem was just that there isn't a lot of vertical clearance for the rear valve cover.
 
Semi off topic but what is a good price for a place to charge to do the valve adjustment.

I have heard $500 or so. I can see 3-4 hours of labor @ $120/hr and $75 for parts (gaskets). An experienced tech will do this much faster that I did. But that doesn't mean the dealer will charge you less.
 
I just did this yesterday. I had open access to the engine since I was doing TB and let me just say....these valves are a PITA to adjust. The exhaust valves on the rear cylinder bank....how the hell are you suppose to even reach those screws and nuts without going from underneath??
 
I just did this yesterday. I had open access to the engine since I was doing TB and let me just say....these valves are a PITA to adjust. The exhaust valves on the rear cylinder bank....how the hell are you suppose to even reach those screws and nuts without going from underneath??

They can be done from the top. Being a contortionist and about 50 pounds lighter than me helps. :biggrin: The Honda/Acura tool also makes it slightly less painful.
 
I just did this yesterday. I had open access to the engine since I was doing TB and let me just say....these valves are a PITA to adjust. The exhaust valves on the rear cylinder bank....how the hell are you suppose to even reach those screws and nuts without going from underneath??

They are definitely more difficult than the front bank. But I don't think they were CRAZY difficult. Cylinder #1 was the worst for me. Especially unfortunate that was where the adjuster screw was stuck. I used a two step stepladder to give me a bit more reach.

I was sore in odd places the next two days from the twisting and reaching I did.

But man is my car smooth and quiet now. Better than when I bought it with 23K miles on it.

BTW - the entire visible head/valve train area was super clean on my car. No signs of any burnt oil, buildup of any kind.
 
I just did this yesterday. I had open access to the engine since I was doing TB and let me just say....these valves are a PITA to adjust. The exhaust valves on the rear cylinder bank....how the hell are you suppose to even reach those screws and nuts without going from underneath??

You can always sit on the engine for that last reach :smile:

 
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