US to recruit one in 24 as citizen spies

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US planning to recruit one in 24 Americans as citizen spies
By Ritt Goldstein
July 15 2002

The Bush Administration aims to recruit millions of United States citizens as domestic informants in a program likely to alarm civil liberties groups.

The Terrorism Information and Prevention System, or TIPS, means the US will have a higher percentage of citizen informants than the former East Germany through the infamous Stasi secret police. The program would use a minimum of 4 per cent of Americans to report "suspicious activity".

Civil liberties groups have already warned that, with the passage earlier this year of the Patriot Act, there is potential for abusive, large-scale investigations of US citizens.

As with the Patriot Act, TIPS is being pursued as part of the so-called war against terrorism. It is a Department of Justice project.

Highlighting the scope of the surveillance network, TIPS volunteers are being recruited primarily from among those whose work provides access to homes, businesses or transport systems. Letter carriers, utility employees, truck drivers and train conductors are among those named as targeted recruits.


A pilot program, described on the government Web site www.citizencorps.gov, is scheduled to start next month in 10 cities, with 1 million informants participating in the first stage. Assuming the program is initiated in the 10 largest US cities, that will be 1 million informants for a total population of almost 24 million, or one in 24 people.

Historically, informant systems have been the tools of non-democratic states. According to a 1992 report by Harvard University's Project on Justice, the accuracy of informant reports is problematic, with some informants having embellished the truth, and others suspected of having fabricated their reports.

Present Justice Department procedures mean that informant reports will enter databases for future reference and/or action. The information will then be broadly available within the department, related agencies and local police forces. The targeted individual will remain unaware of the existence of the report and of its contents.

The Patriot Act already provides for a person's home to be searched without that person being informed that a search was ever performed, or of any surveillance devices that were implanted.

At state and local levels the TIPS program will be co-ordinated by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which

was given sweeping new powers, including internment, as part of the Reagan Administration's national security initiatives. Many key figures of the Reagan era are part of the Bush Administration.

The creation of a US "shadow government", operating in secret, was another Reagan national security initiative.

Ritt Goldstein is an investigative journalist and a former leader in the movement for US law enforcement accountability. He has lived in Sweden since 1997, seeking political asylum there, saying he was the victim of life-threatening assaults in retaliation for his accountability efforts. His application has been supported by the European Parliament, five of Sweden's seven big political parties, clergy, and Amnesty and other rights groups.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/14/1026185141232.html
 
Originally posted by MAJOR STONER:
Civil liberties groups have already warned that, with the passage earlier this year of the Patriot Act, there is potential for abusive, large-scale investigations of US citizens.

That makes me feel better now that groups like the all knowing ACLU are concerned about abuse. They most likley don't want anyone to know that their representatives wear each others underwear.
 
Big Brother at work no doubt. Boy, Orsen Wells was right about our world after all. For those that are for this 'Patriotic' Act, don't forget that YOUR freedom of privacy will be jeopardized as well.

[This message has been edited by Zanardi 50 (edited 05 August 2002).]
 
this whole thing, corporate fraud/enron, terrorism and citizen spies all stinks. there are reasons for it all, but not necessarily the best choices were made.

the best situation regarding citizen reporting is that it be encouraged, not recruit individuals and neighbors to become endorsed spies.

we could stand to learn from our brethren in europe. our fellow member said it best; "stasi". i'll bet that most americans not only have never heard of this, but dont even know about the horrors that have gone on when citizens were turned into spy networks.

take the average citizen who would be willing to spy for the state, and you have a person who can and will use this power to settle grudges, influence all existing power structures, and generally run amok. Spying is best left to the professionals who have been screened and can be evaluated.

someone i know actually observed a group of people acting suspiciously, and they were in a small mall in a small city where their apparent ethnic background stood out. This person reported their observation to the fbi but was completely ignored and dismissed. two days later this person received a call from someone higher up who asked questions and thanked them.

right or wrong, agree or disagree, that seems to be a general citizenship responsibility during these times. much better than signing specific people up to become spies of the state.

i am curious what others think....
 
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