Uh... I have a silly question about racing/drifting...
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I would have to say driving the line. Drifting must scrub off a lot of speed no?
I actually agree with hugh! :smile:
=) i think that in the era of crappy tires with little traction,
small angle drifts were faster than driving a line (since your tire adhesion totally sucked back in the day, a' la Keichii Tsuchiya doing it to win his JGTC races and such)
fast forward to today where tires are amazingly better and i think that in 99% of cases driving the best line will get you around the corner faster =)
also alot of speed drifting doesnt look like Initial D drifting with huge slip angles =o, its a little more subtle than that i think
just my 2 cents :biggrin:
although Rhys Millen can do a corner ENTRY at 80 mph with a slip angle of 40 degrees, even if its not faster its much much prettier :biggrin:
small angle drifts were faster than driving a line (since your tire adhesion totally sucked back in the day, a' la Keichii Tsuchiya doing it to win his JGTC races and such)
fast forward to today where tires are amazingly better and i think that in 99% of cases driving the best line will get you around the corner faster =)
also alot of speed drifting doesnt look like Initial D drifting with huge slip angles =o, its a little more subtle than that i think
just my 2 cents :biggrin:
although Rhys Millen can do a corner ENTRY at 80 mph with a slip angle of 40 degrees, even if its not faster its much much prettier :biggrin:
Fact: "Grip driving" is always faster than drifting, but only 85% of the time according to this scientific poll. 
Also lets not forget that drifting is ghey.
As a general rule most grip occurs when tires are at a slip angle around 10 degrees. Though, you want both the rear and the front tires at that limit. And obviously you never see real race cars drifting the rear out during the race unless they have made a mistake.
On a real road course, the proper line is always faster than drifting. Drifting in these situations is just for show and cinematic excitement. However, for rally racing where traction is low which renders full braking before a turn impossible before the car starts sliding, and full throttle exit very sloppy and slow, conventional driving technique suffers. Drifting takes advantage here.GOTTSPD said:
Steve
Thanks all for your responses.
As I watched the lastest Fast & the Furious movie last night and they were drifting in a parking garage and then up a really tight circular type rampway leading to the next level, I found myself thinking whether it would have been faster to drift through the really tight corners or drive through them. Makes sense that it's better to drive.
As I watched the lastest Fast & the Furious movie last night and they were drifting in a parking garage and then up a really tight circular type rampway leading to the next level, I found myself thinking whether it would have been faster to drift through the really tight corners or drive through them. Makes sense that it's better to drive.
Havent seen too many formula one cars drifting either :smile:
Hugh said:Also lets not forget that drifting is ghey.
lol...agreed
Just keep in mind that Drifting-extreme slip angles is not the same as slightly rotating a car or sliding, F1 cars down to civics slide in and out of corners constantly, its just subtle, so to say driving a "line" is fastest could be taken different ways.
To answer the question, it depends on the corner, the amount of traction, going into, mid, and coming out of the corner, the amount of power you have etc as to what line or slip angle is the fastest. Typically a rear wheel drive car with decent power will want to "drift" when driven to the limits and its the drivers seat of the pants feel and ability to figure out if he or she is going forward or just burning rubber.
When the car starts moving around your at maybe 75 to 80 percent of its ability. That's when the fun starts
To answer the question, it depends on the corner, the amount of traction, going into, mid, and coming out of the corner, the amount of power you have etc as to what line or slip angle is the fastest. Typically a rear wheel drive car with decent power will want to "drift" when driven to the limits and its the drivers seat of the pants feel and ability to figure out if he or she is going forward or just burning rubber.
When the car starts moving around your at maybe 75 to 80 percent of its ability. That's when the fun starts
