hello, i went cat-less on my first nsx.. not again on my second!! i installed the exhaust, headers, pipes and intake all in one shot so i don't know if the pipes actually made a big difference. i can say though, the whole package kicked butt. the problems with the pipes aside from pollution include making your exhaust sound a little raspy and making you smell like you have been mowing the lawn. on the nsx i have now, i am only going with the taitec exhaust and hks intake. good luck