ScienceofSpeed Non-Compliance Suspension Special

[ScienceofSpeed]

Until the end of Febuary, we're offering our non-compliance suspension products for $50.00 off when the following items are purchased.

This is the best way to improve handling of your NSX. In addition, tire wear can be improved by using the non-compliance toe links which allow less tire scrub.

Non-compliance Rear Beam Bushings
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/produ.../NSX/ScienceofSpeed/non-compliance/rear_beam/

Non-compliance Toe Links:
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/produ.../NSX/ScienceofSpeed/non-compliance/toe-links/

Non-compliance Pivot Clamp
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/produ...SX/ScienceofSpeed/non-compliance/pivot_clamp/

best regards,
-- Chris

 

[Shumdit]

Chris,
Have you guys ever considered coming up with a fix for the tire wear that results from lowering (particularly on the rear?) I woud think this would be a good seller.

 

[Osiris_x11]

cool special...

Chris,
Have you guys ever considered coming up with a fix for the tire wear that results from lowering (particularly on the rear?) I woud think this would be a good seller.

... a.k.a. rear camber kit! Comptech_USA was working on something for the NSX about 3-4yrs ago. Not sure if it is still being pursued...

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

The toe links can reduce tire wear by allowing you to reduce toe-in and tire scrub. We've had lots of luck with this. I estimate that the product increases tire life by 25-50%.

Regarding a camber kit, Comptech offers off-set bushings for the front suspension. However, the work to install these often results in a damaged control arm since the sleeve pops out of the control arm during installation requiring a new control arm ($900+) The risk and costs associated with this does not make a lot of sense if you're trying to reduce tire wear. The best way would be to offer a billet control arm, however, the cost (i'd guess $1500.00 per side) makes the concept unfeasible.

Best way to reduce tire wear is to to reduce tire scrub (which the toe links can achieve), minimize negative camber as much as possible, and flip your tires from side to side at about the 50% wear mileage.

Regards,
-- Chris

 

[nsxnut]

Just think... I have been trying to add negative camber.
I have the front Comptech camber bushings but my car is a track car.
I don't care about tire wear though.

I believe if you raise the car "in crease ride height" you will be able to take out some camber? Not that this is desirable.

Oh well.

later,
Don

 

[Shumdit]

The toe links can reduce tire wear by allowing you to reduce toe-in and tire scrub. We've had lots of luck with this. I estimate that the product increases tire life by 25-50%.

Regarding a camber kit, Comptech offers off-set bushings for the front suspension. However, the work to install these often results in a damaged control arm since the sleeve pops out of the control arm during installation requiring a new control arm ($900+) The risk and costs associated with this does not make a lot of sense if you're trying to reduce tire wear. The best way would be to offer a billet control arm, however, the cost (i'd guess $1500.00 per side) makes the concept unfeasible.

Best way to reduce tire wear is to to reduce tire scrub (which the toe links can achieve), minimize negative camber as much as possible, and flip your tires from side to side at about the 50% wear mileage.

Regards,
-- Chris

I have some overseas contacts who do billet machining. I bet if someone could make a single set to use as the prototype, these could be brought to market for considerably less than that (I would venture a guess at under $1000 a pair, which would be more feasible for some of us who really go through tires).

 

[nsxnut]

If I am not mistaken. Rear camber is easly had. If the car is lowered
even more camber is obtained.

Front camber you will need the camber bushing kit. This is a one way trip and the Arms must be removed from the car for the install.

Later,
Don

 

[NSXDreamer2]

back to the topic, Chris, I had a comptech toe link (not installed without the beam per someone's suggestion.)

Could you tell me if your beam will work with the comptech links?

 

[titaniumdave]

Chris,
Have you guys ever considered coming up with a fix for the tire wear that results from lowering (particularly on the rear?) I woud think this would be a good seller.

I hope to have that kit in the next couple of months, in proto-type right now. Will be able to add or subtract about 1 degree of camber. Working on a front set and a rear set, will have a mono ball pivot. I am working on a rubber boot seal to keep it from sqeaking, like some rigid bushings can.

 

[titaniumdave]

back to the topic, Chris, I had a comptech toe link (not installed without the beam per someone's suggestion.)

Could you tell me if your beam will work with the comptech links?

SOS parts and Comptech parts play well together! I have used both, I have SOS bushings and toe links on my car now.

 

[Andrie Hartanto]

Be careful on making billet part on LCA. The LCA takes a lot of beating and a really hard billet aluminum is often not the answer. The NSX use a unique aluminum on their suspension parts that when you hit something it bends (ask me how I know). Billet aluminum part like to crack.

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

back to the topic, Chris, I had a comptech toe link (not installed without the beam per someone's suggestion.)

Could you tell me if your beam will work with the comptech links?

Yes, this will work fine. In fact, the beam gives most of the precision in handling. You get 50% or less of the effect by only doing one of the mods.

take care,
-- Chris

 

[Shumdit]

I hope to have that kit in the next couple of months, in proto-type right now. Will be able to add or subtract about 1 degree of camber. Working on a front set and a rear set, will have a mono ball pivot. I am working on a rubber boot seal to keep it from sqeaking, like some rigid bushings can.

SWEET! Any rough idea of cost?

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

hi Dave --

Problem isn't making the part, but the ball joint & sleeves of the opposite control arm / uprights that are damaged during the installation of such a product. Call me when you get the arms and uprights in your hand, and I'll walk you though the issues.

take care,
-- Chris

 

[WingZ]

The toe links can reduce tire wear by allowing you to reduce toe-in and tire scrub. We've had lots of luck with this. I estimate that the product increases tire life by 25-50%.

Regarding a camber kit, Comptech offers off-set bushings for the front suspension. However, the work to install these often results in a damaged control arm since the sleeve pops out of the control arm during installation requiring a new control arm ($900+) The risk and costs associated with this does not make a lot of sense if you're trying to reduce tire wear. The best way would be to offer a billet control arm, however, the cost (i'd guess $1500.00 per side) makes the concept unfeasible.

Best way to reduce tire wear is to to reduce tire scrub (which the toe links can achieve), minimize negative camber as much as possible, and flip your tires from side to side at about the 50% wear mileage.

Regards,
-- Chris

Hey Chris

I tried to buy the toe links ,but they still show regular price in the cart. Do I have to purchase all three to get the $50 off? Also to clarify,are you saying that the toe links by themselves reduce tire wear?

Thanks