S2000 2.2, first test drive.

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From Auto Express:
Honda S2000 2.2

It all started as a one-off anniversary celebration for 50 golden years of Honda. But the original S2000 was never the perfect present. That is why the car has been tweaked every year since it was launched in 1998, despite the low production numbers.

Now, for 2004, the model gets its most radical revision yet. With a larger engine, modified suspension, fresh body detailing and an even better six-speed box, this S2000 is virtually brand new - and Auto Express has driven it first.

The results are startling. Just a moment behind the wheel convinces you that this is the car Honda's engineers always intended the S2000 to be. That said, the cockpit is still as tight as a pair of drainpipe jeans, but ergonomically, it remains one of the best around.

After the snug leather interior, the first thing you notice is that the tacho red line has fallen from 9,000rpm to a more sedate 8,200rpm. Only when you head to the test track do you see why.

S2000 owners have been craving more mid-range urge since the launch. Honda's answer was to up capacity to 2.2 litres and increase torque. The unit can't rev as hard, but that's no bad thing. Peak power is still 240bhp, but it's now achieved at 7,800rpm - down from 8,300rpm - while torque jumps from 207Nm at 7,500rpm to 218Nm at 6,500rpm. Yet performance is largely the same, with a 6.0-second 0-60mph time and a top speed of 155mph.

It's when you reach 4,000rpm that you notice the extra poke, and as you pass 6,000rpm, the VTEC variable valve timing system switches the engine to warp

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drive. True, you still have to work it hard, but that just adds to the thrill of this car. The six-speed gearbox is now closer to perfection. Ratios are longer, while the synchromesh has been uprated to improve shift quality. The result is a more precise, positive gearchange that goes exactly where you want it to.

The other area of improvement is the steering and suspension package. Honda's engineers have sharpened the steering and stiffened the front end. The rear ride height is also lower and the springs slightly softer. So gone is the inherent tendency for snap oversteer at the limit. It all means the S2000 is great fun to drive, better than even the brilliant Porsche Boxster.

But it's not all good news, as Honda has no plans to import this less frantic S2000. While UK cars will get the styling upgrades early in 2004, there'll be no new engine or suspension tweaks. Given the 2.2's promise, that's a shame.
Peter Lyon

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That's more torque, but the 9000 rpm made that car I think. Oh well.
 
Admittedly, I'm an S2000 fanatic but I've never really thought the car was underpowered. For a 2.0L motor, its got plenty of torque and all kinds of horsepower. I easily stay ahead of traffic without getting into VTEC and blow past it when I do.

Would I like the car more if it somehow had the same driving dynamics but managed to have 200 lb/ft of torque? Sure. But I don't see how you keep the price point the same, the weight the same, and the awesome driving dynamics the same by doing so.

I'm sure the new S2K will be slightly quicker and slightly easier to drive. I'm also willing to bet that it will have lost some of the raw, visceral edginess that made the car so special. Granted, it will still be more edgy that damn near anything sold in the US but I'll actually lament that fact that Honda has made the (admittedly good) business decision to chase a larger potential clientel at the expense of the hardcore enthusiast.

Finally, I actually like many of the changes that Honda has made. I bet the chassis reinforcements, improved space in the cockpit, better brakes, stouter rear end, and improved gear box are all excellent. I am not a fan of the changes to the exterior, much of the changes to the look of the cockpit, or the lower redline.

I wonder how awesome the car would have been if you took the old motor and coupled it with the better brakes, improved chassis, beefed up rear end, and improved gearbox.
 
Temple of VTEC has photos and more details (can't stand the new rims and I'm not sure why they made the minor visual changes up front).
 
Re: WOW!

matteni said:
Check out this article from AutoWeek: http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...=reviews&loc_code=index&content_code=06842145

They got a test drive from none other then the father of our beloved NSX - Mr. Uehara-san. Mr Uehara, is the father of the S2000, the father of the NSX and the former chief engineer of the Honda F1 team.

I never knew Uehara can drive like that too. Always thought he was just an engineer working in the lab wearing his white lab coat all the time. :D
 
all I know is...that if the new changes make the car faster and easier to control... meaning faster overall... then I don't see where it's lost it's edge.

It's been refined a little more, yes, and maybe it's getting closer to that age old NSX quibble: "It's too easy to drive fast" and that's a weak argument against it in my book. I don't want my car to almost kill me, I want it to be speed friendly and I think that the new tweaks on the s2000 have done that. Uehara even says so...and he should know, if anyone. :cool:
 
Oh, I love all the changes that will make it a better/faster car, all I said was that the 9000 RPM redline was trully special. Wish they had kept that part. Then again, I don't have a 2004 S2000, I have an NSX, so it doesn't matter too much:-))
 
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I like it as a daily driver but..

I would not swap my 95 -T/ 30K miles/Red-Tan for a brand new S2000. Sorry! OK folks. This 52 year old, life long car nut thinks the NSX is the best TOY in the world. One of my qualifications is dependability, which automatically disqualifies some of the "sexier" cars.

Reminds me of my younger days - The best sex did not come from "dependable women". It did not matter to me then (dependability), but it does now.

This is where I am, I am not saying it is a good thing! :)

If this makes NO Sense to anyone but me, that's OK.
 
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