Roja Formula 7 Wheels & Falken FK451 Tires - Review

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I had a set of Volk GT-U wheels on order with Mackin.... guy working there quit and my order was lost.... a 3 month wait for nothing :mad: . But I found a set of Roja Formula 7 wheels at Wheels Boutique and Ben hooked it up for me with the Falken GR Beta FK451 tires at a great price
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I'm kind of glad I didn't get the Volks because I see them all the time on lots of different cars around the So Cal area, plus the OEM 7-spoke look had really grown on me and the Formula 7 wheels are perfect for my needs. One thing I liked is the lip on the front & rear wheels. I really don't like the look of some Volk wheel setups where there is a huge lip in the back and then no lip up front. At least these Roja wheels have a somewhat uniform look for the car - a small lip up front and a medium size lip in the back.

As for the tires & rubbing, I don't have any rubbing problems at all. The car is lowered on Bilsteins (upper perch) and Eibach springs. 18x8 and 19x10 wheels, both with 45mm offset (3mm spacers are needed for the front and it barely clears the stock caliper) and I'm running 215/35-18 tires up front, and 275/30-19 tires in the back. At full wheel lock, there is no rubbing when I'm making a turn into a parking spot or into my garage. The only time I would experience any rubbing is if I take a hard sharp turn or a U-turn at faster speeds, and then the splash guard would briefly hit the top of the tire if the car bounces when making the turn.

The ride quality hasn't really be sacraficed. Going from 16/17 wheel setup to the 18/19 really wasn't as bad as some people said it was going to be. If I really feel for it, I can notice the bumps are easier to detect but overall it's still a smooth ride when driving around. Braking did get a little worse but it took me a day to compensate with the larger wheels so now I'm used to them. My only concern now it to just watch out for some pot holes in risk of bending the rim with the 30-series tires.

The Falken GR Beta FK451 tires are actually pretty good. I've been driving on the Yokohama ES100 tires for the past 4 months on my old 16/17 OEM wheels (For Sale here ;) ) and from the regular driving I do around town and on the LA freeways, I've noticed a few differences. Both are rated around the same for tread wear (280) but I noticed the ES100 tires feel like they're a harder tire. Thus, I can swing the back end out pretty easy with the Yoko tires and driving at high speeds on the freeway, banking and merging onto another freeway or even taking an on or offramp fast, the ES100 tires feel like they want to break loose on me and cause the car to slide. With the Falken tires, I've noticed that it feels more sticky and I can take the same banks/on & offramps at the same speed the and car feels much more solid going around the turns. This may just be me or my type of driving, or the fact that they're bigger/wider tires, but in my opinion for an everyday daily driver tire the Falken GR Beta FK451 tires seem to be a great choice, especially over the Yokamama ES100 tire.

Here are some pics of the wheels on the car. I haven't put the center caps on yet because I'm removing the "Roja" logo first for a cleaner look.

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Hey the wheels look great!

The 451's are a great tyre! I have them myself!

However, they are really quite narrow. I think they are the narrowest tyres I have seen! For example, one of the Bridgestone tyres (SO2 or SO3 or something can't remember now) in 225/50/16 size was actually nearly 1 inch wider (tread width) than my falken 451 245/45/16! :confused:

Now I have new wheels, I'm running, 265/35ZR18 on 10' rims rear and 215/40ZR17 on 8" rims at the front. The tyres actually look like they are too small (narrow) for the rims, like the tyre is being pulled out to the rim.

One problem with this is that the raised rubber "rim protector" on the tyre then becomes useless! So watch the curbs!

Secondly, if you are having slight rubbing now, if you change to a different tyre brand , even one of the same "size" at a later date, it is very likely you will have more serious issues with rubbing because it will most probably be a "bigger" (wider) tyre.

Just a couple of things to look out for...

But I think the set-up looks hot!
 
AU_NSX said:
However, they are really quite narrow. I think they are the narrowest tyres I have seen! For example, one of the Bridgestone tyres (SO2 or SO3 or something can't remember now) in 225/50/16 size was actually nearly 1 inch wider (tread width) than my falken 451 245/45/16! :confused:

I also noticed that and now that I think about it, Falken tires seem to be a bit more narrow than most other tires. Same with the Falken Ziex tires I used to have. They were a more narrow tire than some other tire brands I had laying around (195/50/15 and 205/50/15 sizes). Eventually I'll upgrade to a wider tire in the back but there really aren't that many manufacturers making a tire of that size. But I do agree, along with some of my friends, the tires do look like they're not wide enough for the wheel, but they do feel good when driving around on them (grip-wise).

After putting the FK451 275/30/19 tires next to my old Yokohama ES100 tires from my OEM wheels (255/40/17), the Falkens do look a bit wider :cool:

AU_NSX said:
One problem with this is that the raised rubber "rim protector" on the tyre then becomes useless! So watch the curbs!

Heh yeah, something else I noticed with the wheels I need to watch out for as they do flare out a bit.
 
Newman said:
After putting the FK451 275/30/19 tires next to my old Yokohama ES100 tires from my OEM wheels (255/40/17), the Falkens do look a bit wider :cool:

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I think the ES100 is also on the narrow side. My 265/35 seems to be narrower than the 255/35 yoko avs intermediate. :confused:

It may have something to do with the round shoulder design.
 
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