Remember those NSX on Ebay that Were FRAUD READ THIS
- Thread starter Cyan NSX
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Holly Crap...
That's a bad story; poor guy.
At least the media have finally caught up, which might help prevent further losses. *Crosses fingers* thanx cyan for posting.
That's a bad story; poor guy.
At least the media have finally caught up, which might help prevent further losses. *Crosses fingers* thanx cyan for posting.
I can very much relate to what that victim is saying about the FBI not caring about white collar crime. I was the victim of ID theft and the authorities basically stop just short of laughing as you go through the motions of reporting this stuff.
The only people who take it seriously are the department stores and credit card companies. In the case of these auction scams, the only people taking it seriously are the victims!
I was only able to coax a reaction out of ONE cop when I told him that this crime is basically legal so they should just make it official and not bother. He took a bit of offense so I just said, "hey, you're admitting that no one can/will do anything about it, so criminals might as well just do this".
The "we've got bigger battles to fight" excuse is total BS. For all law enforcement knows, these scams may be helping to FUND drug dealers and terrorists.
[This message has been edited by spookyp (edited 24 January 2003).]
The only people who take it seriously are the department stores and credit card companies. In the case of these auction scams, the only people taking it seriously are the victims!
I was only able to coax a reaction out of ONE cop when I told him that this crime is basically legal so they should just make it official and not bother. He took a bit of offense so I just said, "hey, you're admitting that no one can/will do anything about it, so criminals might as well just do this".
The "we've got bigger battles to fight" excuse is total BS. For all law enforcement knows, these scams may be helping to FUND drug dealers and terrorists.
[This message has been edited by spookyp (edited 24 January 2003).]
The alleged escrow site is still up as of 10:15 pm pacific.
Register info:
Organization:
Gib Bassett
Gib Bassett
144 Woodstock Ave.
Clarendon Hills, IL 60514
US
Phone: 630-734-3592
Email: [email protected]
Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com
Domain Name: PREMIER-ESCROW.COM
Created on..............: Tue, Oct 15, 2002
Expires on..............: Wed, Oct 15, 2003
Record last updated on..: Tue, Jan 07, 2003
Register info:
Organization:
Gib Bassett
Gib Bassett
144 Woodstock Ave.
Clarendon Hills, IL 60514
US
Phone: 630-734-3592
Email: [email protected]
Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com
Domain Name: PREMIER-ESCROW.COM
Created on..............: Tue, Oct 15, 2002
Expires on..............: Wed, Oct 15, 2003
Record last updated on..: Tue, Jan 07, 2003
Hmm, you seem to be able to log into that premier-escrow.com site with:
username: test
password: test
What's funny is that if you log in and click on 'Personal Info' at the left -- the account's email address is '[email protected]', which matches the posted WHOIS info above.
Looks like this is a 1 man scam, I'm certain it's a false name. Here's the ARIN info on the netblock:
OrgName: Cyber World Internet Services
OrgID: CWIS
NetRange: 66.206.0.0 - 66.206.31.255
CIDR: 66.206.0.0/19
NetName: CYBERWORLD-INT
NetHandle: NET-66-206-0-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS0.NIC-REG-DNS.COM
NameServer: NS1.NIC-REG-DNS.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-12-04
Updated: 2002-03-08
TechHandle: AS1239-ARIN
TechName: Slocombe, Alvin
TechPhone: +1-509-343-2100
TechEmail: [email protected]
username: test
password: test
What's funny is that if you log in and click on 'Personal Info' at the left -- the account's email address is '[email protected]', which matches the posted WHOIS info above.
Looks like this is a 1 man scam, I'm certain it's a false name. Here's the ARIN info on the netblock:
OrgName: Cyber World Internet Services
OrgID: CWIS
NetRange: 66.206.0.0 - 66.206.31.255
CIDR: 66.206.0.0/19
NetName: CYBERWORLD-INT
NetHandle: NET-66-206-0-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS0.NIC-REG-DNS.COM
NameServer: NS1.NIC-REG-DNS.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-12-04
Updated: 2002-03-08
TechHandle: AS1239-ARIN
TechName: Slocombe, Alvin
TechPhone: +1-509-343-2100
TechEmail: [email protected]
http://www.vpaa.uillinois.edu/reports_retreats/survey_records/bassett.html
The name 'Gib Bassett' looks to be that of a Professor at the University of Illinois, which matches the listed address. I can't imagine that there are too many 'Gib Bassett's around.
Sounds like the scam artist decided to implicate some innocent individual
The name 'Gib Bassett' looks to be that of a Professor at the University of Illinois, which matches the listed address. I can't imagine that there are too many 'Gib Bassett's around.
Sounds like the scam artist decided to implicate some innocent individual
geezz man... kool find, but gotta be careful.
i wonder if it's a past student with a grudge against a lecturer? (appears he is a university lecturer)
btw... how u get that ARIN info?
i wonder if it's a past student with a grudge against a lecturer? (appears he is a university lecturer)
btw... how u get that ARIN info?
Wow. Unreal.
Makes me feel VERY lucky that I didn't get dupped like that.
I bought my car sight unseen. Luckily, the bank I'm financing my car through insisted on getting their own guys to inspect the car.
I never buy anything online unless I really have to and there's no other way.
The writer was right about people not doing these things normally in the 'analog' world.
Makes me feel VERY lucky that I didn't get dupped like that.
I bought my car sight unseen. Luckily, the bank I'm financing my car through insisted on getting their own guys to inspect the car.
I never buy anything online unless I really have to and there's no other way.
The writer was right about people not doing these things normally in the 'analog' world.
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I have sold 2 cars and bought 1 on Ebay over the last 6 months. The car I purchased was from an international seller (Canada) as well. The Canada deal I wired all the money, sight unseen. All went perfectly but the bottom line - you have to use common sense.
1) If the deal is too good to be true - it is too good to be true!
2) Only buy from sellers that agree to a local inspection (even if you are only bluffing)
3) Why would anyone NOT use Ebay's escrow service when it is integrated into the buy experience and is only $22. This is not always necessary when buying from an established car dealer but is mandatory when buying from an individual.
4) Buy from sellers with a history of perfect feedback on LARGE items. With my Odyssey I bought from Canada the dealer had a perfect history of selling Honda Odyssey's (I bought the 20th one he sold - all with perfect feedback)
5) Get and contact their references (Again - wiring the money into Canada was nerve wracking - check their references by phone and verify that they are whom they say they are. In my case I was able to contact this dealer's fanatical references for perfect and honest transactions).
6) Consider buying only from major metro areas where you can fly cheap and drive it home.
7) If you are a seller - insist on wire transfer OR tell the buyer you will hold the cashier's check until it clears (they can cancel a cashier's check or forge one equally easily)
Buying on Ebay is great as you have a much more efficient market, lower dealer costs, and more buyers/sellers. If you use your head and not your heart - you will be fine!
Sometimes you have to walk away and thank God for the deals you didn't do!
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Nick M
91' Red/Black with Many Mods
99' Honda Odyssey with Many Kids
1) If the deal is too good to be true - it is too good to be true!
2) Only buy from sellers that agree to a local inspection (even if you are only bluffing)
3) Why would anyone NOT use Ebay's escrow service when it is integrated into the buy experience and is only $22. This is not always necessary when buying from an established car dealer but is mandatory when buying from an individual.
4) Buy from sellers with a history of perfect feedback on LARGE items. With my Odyssey I bought from Canada the dealer had a perfect history of selling Honda Odyssey's (I bought the 20th one he sold - all with perfect feedback)
5) Get and contact their references (Again - wiring the money into Canada was nerve wracking - check their references by phone and verify that they are whom they say they are. In my case I was able to contact this dealer's fanatical references for perfect and honest transactions).
6) Consider buying only from major metro areas where you can fly cheap and drive it home.
7) If you are a seller - insist on wire transfer OR tell the buyer you will hold the cashier's check until it clears (they can cancel a cashier's check or forge one equally easily)
Buying on Ebay is great as you have a much more efficient market, lower dealer costs, and more buyers/sellers. If you use your head and not your heart - you will be fine!
Sometimes you have to walk away and thank God for the deals you didn't do!
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Nick M
91' Red/Black with Many Mods
99' Honda Odyssey with Many Kids
THERE WAS RECENTLY AN M3 EITHER ON TRADERONLINE OR CARS FOR SALE-BRAND NEW
2002 OR 2003-PRICE WAS AROUND 40K-SOUNDS LIKE THE SAME SCAM
I emailed the the web site and they sort
of blew me off.The deal was to send the money
to an escrow agent
If it sounds too good to be true--It probably is!
2002 OR 2003-PRICE WAS AROUND 40K-SOUNDS LIKE THE SAME SCAM
I emailed the the web site and they sort
of blew me off.The deal was to send the money
to an escrow agent
If it sounds too good to be true--It probably is!
[wow]
I know exactly who that German guy is!!
I also send an email to that guy after seeing the ad from autotrader on M5 with a great price awhile ago.
His email was a bit suspicious that I decided not to reply to him, but one of things he mentioned after he explained me how it worked was that he had done it "many times"!! He mentioned that he had lots of customers in the U.S. who purchased M5s from him!! What a liar!!
I wish that I kept his email now. It may help track him down if there is any litigation regarding this case.
I also send an email to that guy after seeing the ad from autotrader on M5 with a great price awhile ago.
His email was a bit suspicious that I decided not to reply to him, but one of things he mentioned after he explained me how it worked was that he had done it "many times"!! He mentioned that he had lots of customers in the U.S. who purchased M5s from him!! What a liar!!
I wish that I kept his email now. It may help track him down if there is any litigation regarding this case.
That is horrible.
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