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John,,you analyze too much:tongue: That sounded like the vista explanation:wink: Actualy I do enjoy the time you spend crafting your responses.As I have learned in my profesional life,technowledgy and science are all about the smallest detail.To fully master the universe you need first know its smallest components.Luckily in this discussion all things being equal my best lap times have been when the entire car(all systems) are working well.We all know tires/brakes come and go during each session.My dream would be to have an nsx I could absolutely drive 10/10 all day with my delicate gelatinous being as the weak link.Has your car as you have built it satisfied you in this way?