NSXR video remix

[nsxsupra]

Long time no post in this section. This video is pretty decent, only decent music video I am aware of of NSX-R.

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[WingZ]

Thanks for sharing Jason. That's much better than that gay azz "send me an angel" tribute video

 

[Jetpilot3]

Cool video!

 

[stuntman]

Best Motoring = Japanese propaganda.

Having the NSX-R beating a Murcialago, Gallardo, 360 Modena, etc...

 

[martin]

Best Motoring = Japanese propaganda.

Having the NSX-R beating a Murcialago, Gallardo, 360 Modena, etc...

Hi

I think that BM is a bit biased. But in this clip the NSX-R overheated if I remember correct and ended on third place.

That is very good considered the competition and Honda does it remarkable well in all the BM clips.

Regards

 

[Tai]

The first three quarters of this video are from Top Gear guys.

And btw, Best Motoring is indeed proud of the NSX, but their bias is a lot thinner than you claim. When the NSX actually loses, it actually loses:


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There are plenty of other NSX-R losses, including a recent defeat on Tsukuba by the 997 GT3 setup by J's Racing. Perhaps you shouldn't judge a sport cars track capability by it's straight line speed. A properly setup 140HP Mazda Miata's on R-comps can kill street Ferrari's on the track, so go figure.

 

[stuntman]

The first three quarters of this video are from Top Gear guys.

And btw, Best Motoring is indeed proud of the NSX, but their bias is a lot thinner than you claim. When the NSX actually loses, it actually loses:


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There are plenty of other NSX-R losses, including a recent defeat on Tsukuba by the 997 GT3 setup by J's Racing. Perhaps you shouldn't judge a sport cars track capability by it's straight line speed. A properly setup 140HP Mazda Miata's on R-comps can kill street Ferrari's on the track, so go figure.

Ok, 1 video out of the millions of BS that they have made. F1 Paddle-shifter challenge: 360 Modena, vs Evo, vs M3, vs (forgot the rest). And the M3 was beating the 360 and evo was beating all of them.

By far the worst: R34 vs, M3 GTR, vs M5, vs Gallardo (or Murcialago). The R34 was dead last until the last corner of the last lap where 'magically' everyone dive-bombed eachother and screwed eachother up allowing the only japanese car, the R34 to pass ALL OF THEM on the last corner for the win. Best Motoring = Propaganda 95% of the time.

 

[Tai]

Ok, 1 video out of the millions of BS that they have made. F1 Paddle-shifter challenge: 360 Modena, vs Evo, vs M3, vs (forgot the rest). And the M3 was beating the 360 and evo was beating all of them.

By far the worst: R34 vs, M3 GTR, vs M5, vs Gallardo (or Murcialago). The R34 was dead last until the last corner of the last lap where 'magically' everyone dive-bombed eachother and screwed eachother up allowing the only japanese car, the R34 to pass ALL OF THEM on the last corner for the win. Best Motoring = Propaganda 95% of the time.

I can count dozens of videos where JDM's have absolutely lost on BM. The most "bias" I've observed is the choice of race tracks they choose for their battles. Their main reason was to level the playing field for the JDM's inherent horsepower limitation. Race tracks like Tsukuba are better suited to pure cornering speed rather than straight line acceleration. They did occasionally have track battles at Suzuka and Fuji, where cars like the F355, F40 F50, and dozens of Porsche's and Lamborghini's dominated. Perhaps you actually haven't seen all of these videos. Some may see "Gan San" Kurosawa driving the NSX as a bias as well. The fact is, all popular journalists have some bias. In my opinion, Best Motoring is the least biased, most detailed and thorough motorsport video journal.

But to blatantly generalize their coverage with ridiculous statements such as
"One out of a million BS videos they've made" is absolutely fallacious.

I'm not even sure it's worth getting into this with you on a per video basis, but the GTR in that video your mentioned did have 500HP. Perhaps you were not aware of this fact. If you even think for a moment that that entire battle was staged you are flat out wrong. Best Motoring puts significant emphasis on driver competitiveness in their videos, and to assume that the top Japanese racing drivers would be complicit in something so dishonorable such as staging races than you obviously don't understand Japanese culture either, which makes your comments even more offensive. Perhaps you should watch more videos figure out what they are talking about before you draw flawed conclusions.

As far as bias goes, here's a recent video where all the JDM's are defeated by the GT3. The Gallardo SE also recently beat all the JDM's at Tsukuba as well.

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[stuntman]

But to blatantly generalize their coverage with ridiculous statements such as
"One out of a million BS videos they've made" is absolutely fallacious.

I'm not even sure it's worth getting into this with you on a per video basis, but the GTR in that video your mentioned did have 500HP. Perhaps you were not aware of this fact. If you even think for a moment that that entire battle was staged you are flat out wrong. Best Motoring puts significant emphasis on driver competitiveness in their videos, and to assume that the top Japanese racing drivers would be complicit in something so dishonorable such as staging races than you obviously don't understand Japanese culture either, which makes your comments even more offensive.

Try telling me that a Ferrari F40, a barely street-legal racecar has difficulties passing an NSX, RX7, R33 GTR, and i forgot what else. You pretty much have a racecar going against performance street cars, so try to tell me that the japanese cars are just 'that good'. NO, the driver of the F40 in whatever BM video (i dont care to look it up) was a complete wanker. Trying to make the race more even, either that, or the BM producers put the worst driver in the best car to 'even' the playing field. Yes BM happens to do a good job on a tests once every blue moon with relatively even drivers, but the vast majority is BS -not showing the true capabilities of the car due to driver differences - and their ARE vast driver differences in most of these tests, even if you cannot see it.

I love the concept and idea that BM puts on, which is a great way to test cars, but I'm still closely sticking to my original opinions about BM's execution of a lot of their tests.

Perhaps you should watch more videos figure out what they are talking about before you draw flawed conclusions.

Thats alright, I prefer to drive them myself and come up with my own conclusions :wink:



Maybe you should read more magazines???

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[NSX UNITED]

Just an observation, the white one with "NSX R" plates is not a real NSX-R :wink:

 

[martin]

Just an observation, the white one with "NSX R" plates is not a real NSX-R :wink:

Hi

Please let us know why it is not a NSX-R? I have played the "mother Top Gear clip" here and they say over and over again that this is the Type R version. And as I see it has all the Type R stuff like seats and gearleaver mesh and ofcourse more.

It is from the Top Gear episode dated 28.12.2003 where Hamster says that Honda should "Step away from the NSX" and does not give it any nice review.

Regards

 

[NSX UNITED]

The Top Gear one is the NSX-R no doubt but the one earlier in the clip is not.

This video is composed of different clips, check out the top left hand corner and you'll notice it's not enitrely from BBC World (i.e. the Top Gear show).

And I thought you'll at least notice the "NSX R" plated car does not have the White Type R Lights.

 

[nsxsupra]

And I thought you'll at least notice the "NSX R" plated car does not have the White Type R Lights.

Everyone noticed that, can't really miss it:smile:

That is real NSX-R from UK, it even got silver NSX-R wheels. It is on several magazines from Europe. They come in silver headlights for markets outside of Japan, why? don't know, stupid part on Honda, yes. :redface:

There are even NSX-Rs that come with different color wheels, it is up to the customer to decide what color they want when they placed the custom order.

I prefer white headlights personally.

Here is another video of NSX-R, this is a prototype:
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[fourringpilot]

So many think these videos are rigged. Most people also think more hp = faster car. Maybe true at a dragstip but handling and cornering exit ability reign supreme on the tight Japanese courses. When you watch any pro racing series different teams do better at road courses vs oval tracks. Montoya was an excellent example of this in NASCAR.

 

[stuntman]

So many think these videos are rigged.

Most people also think more hp = faster car. Maybe true at a dragstip but handling and cornering exit ability reign supreme on the tight Japanese courses.

When you watch any pro racing series different teams do better at road courses vs oval tracks. Montoya was an excellent example of this in NASCAR.

You had 3 main ideas. None of which flow together to make sense, heck, they dont even connect.

What does Montoya kicking butt on road courses (against drivers who do not know how to turn right) have to do with how some teams do better at road courses vs. oval?

How does that connect to more HP = (or not) a faster car?

 

[fourringpilot]

You had 3 main ideas. None of which flow together to make sense, heck, they dont even connect.

What does Montoya kicking butt on road courses (against drivers who do not know how to turn right) have to do with how some teams do better at road courses vs. oval?

How does that connect to more HP = (or not) a faster car?

Every driver is different. Every crew is different. Every course is different. All these factors can lead to a Ferrari being faster/slower than the NSX on any given day despite the fact the specs on the car don't change. This does not make the BM videos rigged or bias.

 

[stuntman]

Every driver is different. Every crew is different. Every course is different. All these factors can lead to a Ferrari being faster/slower than the NSX on any given day despite the fact the specs on the car don't change. This does not make the BM videos rigged or bias.

Thank you, re-confirming what I already said...

Im sorry, an NSX-R shouldn't be faster than an F430, 360 or 355 (maybe).

 

[j.r]

A NSX-R went around the Ring in the same time as a 360 CS didn't it?

 

[Tai]

A NSX-R went around the Ring in the same time as a 360 CS didn't it?[/QUOTE[/I]


It did indeed.

 

[stuntman]

A NSX-R went around the Ring in the same time as a 360 CS didn't it?

If that is true, then I stand corrected... and that is impressive.

 

[Tai]

# 7:55 - Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06)
# 7:56 - Honda NSX-R (NA2), 280 PS/31kgm/1270 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best MOTORing 08/02)
# 7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo (sport auto 06/00)
# 7:56 - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (sport tyres) (sport auto 02/04)

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