nsx vs. RX-7?
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Stupid subject.....it'll just end up in a bunch of stupid statistics and tainted opinions.... let's not be like the other childish car boards...
This topic is DEAD!
Been discussed be4. Do a search.
Hey you guys, let's not be rude. The answer is simple: NSX.
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NSXY
95 NSX-T, 5 sp, Red/Tan, Stock, except Dunlaptya SP9000s
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NSXY
95 NSX-T, 5 sp, Red/Tan, Stock, except Dunlaptya SP9000s
LegendR34, the car that handles better to YOU will be the car that handles better. Just like the woman that you are attracted to might be the most ugly woman I have ever seen.
on the other hand, if you cannot form an opinion of your own on what is a good handling car, then maybe a cadillac sedan will suit you better.
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[This message has been edited by maomaonsx (edited 24 January 2001).]
on the other hand, if you cannot form an opinion of your own on what is a good handling car, then maybe a cadillac sedan will suit you better.
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[This message has been edited by maomaonsx (edited 24 January 2001).]
Legendr34,
Go to this page for info: http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000145.html
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NSXY
95 NSX-T, 5 sp, Red/Tan, Stock, except Dunlaptya SP9000s
Go to this page for info: http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000145.html
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NSXY
95 NSX-T, 5 sp, Red/Tan, Stock, except Dunlaptya SP9000s
Having owned both, I would say the RX-7 handles noticably better. Almost perfectly balanced vs the designed-in understeer of the NSX. Also, it feels more agile.
That said, I think the NSX is a superior all around road car.
That said, I think the NSX is a superior all around road car.
For me the answer is simple - NSX - I like the way it handles. But I agree it depends on what fits your experience level and driving style.
This last summer I saw a guy driving a stock 98 Boxster wax all kinds of tricked out cars. Why because he was a professional driver just out having fun. He knew the lines and was just smooth in and out of the turns.
So if you want to compare spec's there's better places to do that than here. But I'll save you time - NSX has the RX7 beat.
This last summer I saw a guy driving a stock 98 Boxster wax all kinds of tricked out cars. Why because he was a professional driver just out having fun. He knew the lines and was just smooth in and out of the turns.
So if you want to compare spec's there's better places to do that than here. But I'll save you time - NSX has the RX7 beat.
Like David, I've owned both as well. In my long list of cars the last gen RX-7 is still an all time favorite.
I would have kept it longer, but it was plagued with all kinds of troubles (Mazda replaced the engine *twice* under warranty) and the sheetmetal was so thin it'd ding if you stared at it too long.
Handling? The best! But somehow can't even compare it to my NSX.
I would have kept it longer, but it was plagued with all kinds of troubles (Mazda replaced the engine *twice* under warranty) and the sheetmetal was so thin it'd ding if you stared at it too long.
Handling? The best! But somehow can't even compare it to my NSX.
I think the NSX handles better than a Cadillac sedan. But of course, that's just my opinion from driving and riding in those cars. You might have a different opinion.
I've owned a Gen III RX7 and 4 NSX. The RX7 felt quicker than a stock NSX due to it's light weight and higher torque/weight than the NSX. Handling is a different story. The RX7 is very twitchy at high speed. Watch some of the track videos of NSX and RX7. The newer Japanese RX7's sometimes beat the NSX, though the body sway is very apparant. The US cars were plagued with reliability problems, which made me sell my Montego Blue 93 for a 91 NSX, and I haven't looked back since. I got tired of coolant shooting out of the engine in the RX.
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Chris Willson
www.ScienceofSpeed.com
www.NSXClassifieds.com
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Chris Willson
www.ScienceofSpeed.com
www.NSXClassifieds.com
The RX7 felt quicker than a stock NSX due to it's light weight and higher torque/weight than the NSX
Actually, the power to weight ratio of both cars is similar (255 hp and 2800 lbs for the RX-7). I'm not familiar with its torque figures, but what matters to acceleration is torque at the wheels, which depends on gearing as well as the torque at the crank. Often cars that get more torque, but don't rev as high as the NSX, don't have any more torque at the wheels because they need to upshift when accelerating, while the NSX stays in the lower gear and revs up to the 8000 RPM redline, getting more torque at the wheels.
Actually, the power to weight ratio of both cars is similar (255 hp and 2800 lbs for the RX-7). I'm not familiar with its torque figures, but what matters to acceleration is torque at the wheels, which depends on gearing as well as the torque at the crank. Often cars that get more torque, but don't rev as high as the NSX, don't have any more torque at the wheels because they need to upshift when accelerating, while the NSX stays in the lower gear and revs up to the 8000 RPM redline, getting more torque at the wheels.
A rotary motor will rev as high as an NSX motor, if not higher. When I was racing 1st gen. RX-7s in the late 70s and early 80s I would occasionally badly miss a shift and wind the motor out to 12K rpms or higher without destroying it.
Yes the rotary engine is really cool if you're a mechanical engineer. We had one in our engine lab in school and use to rev the piss out of it. Amazing when maintained what it could do. Heat transfer and seals were always the problem.
I was going to consider a Gen III RX7 but when I went to AutoTrader.com I was surprised to see way too many RX7's low miles, in good condition, for very cheap!
I call the phenomenon "Lotus Syndrome" I love seeing those 1997 $90k Lotus Esprits with 7,000 miles selling for $43k. The way a car holds ( or loses its value) really tells you something about a car.
I call the phenomenon "Lotus Syndrome" I love seeing those 1997 $90k Lotus Esprits with 7,000 miles selling for $43k. The way a car holds ( or loses its value) really tells you something about a car.
The way a car holds ( or loses its value) really tells you something about a car. [/B][/QUOTE]
That is true to a large extent, but don't forget that the $30K 91NSXs you see for sale now were selling for nearly six figures in late 1990.
That is true to a large extent, but don't forget that the $30K 91NSXs you see for sale now were selling for nearly six figures in late 1990.
The 6 figures was an inflated number due to lack of supply and high demand. I have th original Monrone sticker from my '91 and it retailed at just over 60K. holding 50%-60% of its value after 10 years is VERY good.
Where as a Lotus Esprit V-8 sold for 88K new and sells for almost 50K or so used now after only a year or two.
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'91 Black/Black
#1213 Dali Clutch/Flywheel, Comptech Sway Bars, K&N Cone intake, Comptech/Supertrapp Exhaust
Where as a Lotus Esprit V-8 sold for 88K new and sells for almost 50K or so used now after only a year or two.
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'91 Black/Black
#1213 Dali Clutch/Flywheel, Comptech Sway Bars, K&N Cone intake, Comptech/Supertrapp Exhaust
If you're a regular on Doug Hayashi's nsxfiles.com: there was a Virginia City Hillclimb event one year where Doug and his friend Jeff Litrell attended. Doug had his s/c NSX and Jeff had his stock 3rd gen RX-7.
From what I understand, Jeff got better times than Doug. Read the whole story on Doug's site.
For what it's worth...
Cheers!
Michael.
From what I understand, Jeff got better times than Doug. Read the whole story on Doug's site.
For what it's worth...
Cheers!
Michael.
