NSX tires available when order was placed.

[nosirrahx]

When I placed my order I did not have any option to change which tires I got. The original info seemed to imply that we would have a few options to choose from but that was not the case. I even had my dealer double check with the factory and they were told that there we no options other than Continentals.

Is this what everyone was told as well? I am wondering if only early orders had this restriction or if everyone does.

I am on my 2rd set of MPSS on my RS7 and I really don't see a reason not to do the same on the NSX, might not even wait for the stocks to wear out.

 

[chrisn]

I was told the same thing "All cars come from factory with same tires" (thought to be Contis). Dealer tried to appease me by saying that they would swap out tires (if I paid and supplied them). Not the same as a just paying the price delta.

 

[sadlerau]

I'd be wanting a second set of rims with the "track tyres" fitted. On the street the high performance tyre usually comes with extra harshness and noise disadvantages?

 

[chrisn]

Agreed, but unless the wheels dimensions / bolt pattern / offsets are the same as some other popular OEM wheel, that will likely be pretty expensive for a while... I am hoping to buy some "take offs" from someone here with a fancy wheel fetish.

 

[nosirrahx]

HRE P101 or P201 would look really sharp on this car.

I wonder what the stock wheels weigh compared to the the HREs? I know on the RS7 the stocks are kind of boat anchors in comparison.

 

[chrisn]

HRE P101 or P201 would look really sharp on this car.

I wonder what the stock wheels weigh compared to the the HREs? I know on the RS7 the stocks are kind of boat anchors in comparison.

Totally. The stock wheels are sh*t. Gotta swap's out for HRE ASAP. BTW, if you don't have a good place to store the take-offs, I could buy them from you....

 

[nosirrahx]

Totally. The stock wheels are sh*t. Gotta swap's out for HRE ASAP. BTW, if you don't have a good place to store the take-offs, I could buy them from you....

HAHAHA, nice try. I likely will only be swapping the rubber, spent extra on the exclusive wheels

I could be persuaded though if the stocks are crazy heavy.....we will see.

 

[Bricks and Bio]

Acura in their "we have no idea how to take care of our customers" way is not gonna provide a tire we want. I had my dealer follow up with corporate and have asked the NSX specialist multiple times

The Contis are it for now

i was told the original Y spoke wheels will be available by winter time so I can have a second set of wheels with snow tires

 

[JD Cross]

Not sure why all the concern over tires. The conti's are a daily driver street tire. Decent traction, reasonable tread wear. Not a track tire.
If you want a track tire with a softer compound tire rack has three or four options.
How many new NSX's are going to be tracked right out of the box as compared to street/ highway drives?

The original NSX came with excellent tires with a 120 UTQG.
Great performance numbers but they wore out after about 6 k miles.
Honda got hit withclaims for abnormal wear and had to offer owners a new set gratis.

If they offered a similar track type tire on the new NSX the posts would undoubtedly be complaining about abnormal tire wear again.
Their choice of a reasonable street tire makes sense.

 

[Bricks and Bio]

Cuz I am paying a crap load of money for a custom built toy and I want what I funk kin want on it

the idiots they have in place at Honda have no clue about serving the quirky requests of the rich

 

[nosirrahx]

Not sure why all the concern over tires.

Not having any options on a car like this is the problem. Sure, most people could live with the stock tires but some of us (maybe a lot of us) would have chosen an upgrade from the factory if it were available.

On top of that the original reports were that there were going to be 3 choices.

 

[chrisn]

Not sure why all the concern over tires.

I'd like what was promised: the option to specify the performance tire that was used in the testing that was the basis of all published reviews. That's all. Plenty of cars in this range can be optioned with Cup tires (or equivalent). The Super Sports are also awesome all-in-one. The Conti's are just an unknown.

That's all.

Wait-- I'd also like the freedom to NOT choose the carbon brake (so called) "option."

 

[nosirrahx]

The Super Sports are also awesome all-in-one.

I am a huge fan. On my 2nd set for my RS7 and they have been absolutely amazing. I am a "wheel spin is a performance problem" guy and it is virtually impossible to get even a slight chirp out of them no matter how hard I push them.

This is what I want from my NSX as well and what I deserve.

 

[Bricks and Bio]

Acura set an expectation by saying there would be tire choice and then pulled it, so they deserve the sheet they are getting

As I pointed out in connection to the pikes peak event, Acura's own staff referred to using the optional tires

 

[N Spec]

The way I see it - If you're going to the track, you would want your very own specific wheels with your preferred tires as it's not unusual for most enthusiasts to discard/store the stock wheels in favor of aftermarket ones to further differentiate. That's just my take on it anyways.

 

[Bricks and Bio]

For me, I want a summer/street tire that like the Michelin Super Sport for good weather and then perhaps the Pirelli snow tires for winter.

Acura dumping the Contis on us just shows that Acura has no one on board who understands the custom order world.

 

[N Spec]

For me, I want a summer/street tire that like the Michelin Super Sport for good weather and then perhaps the Pirelli snow tires for winter.

Acura dumping the Contis on us just shows that Acura has no one on board who understands the custom order world.

I have the SS on my NSX right now as a result of an emergency change leaving Miami a few months back, so they were a rather expensive last minute change being the only tires in stock that would work for my rims.

I actually enjoy them the best so far given my tire choices over the years, so I can understand your sentiments. If you're going to spend x amount of dollars for high performance tires, might as well give you options of your own tires. Perhaps the Contis are good winter tires tho...

 

[G.Irish]

For me, I want a summer/street tire that like the Michelin Super Sport for good weather and then perhaps the Pirelli snow tires for winter.

Acura dumping the Contis on us just shows that Acura has no one on board who understands the custom order world.

Agreed. I mean damn, you can get a Civic Si with an optional summer tire, there's absolutely no excuse to not have the the Michelin Super Sports available for owners who want it. This is only going to create a black eye for the NSX because naturally the media and enthusiasts are going to test the car with Contis and start trashing it. Once that negative narrative is created it's difficult to overcome.

 

[jwmelvin]

Do other cars of this caliber all you to choose your favorite tire brand? I haven't ever understood that to be the case. The Contis are fairly high performance summer tires; not many cars come with track tires rather than street tires.

 

[Bricks and Bio]

My point is about the company stating we would have a choice and them pulling it with no excuses.

My guess is the track tires driven by an 80 year old new owner would result in car meets phone pole and Acura feared the liability.

 

[jwmelvin]

I completely agree with your point and if that's their reasoning it's weak.

 

[JD Cross]

Perhaps the tire issue is more about Honda wanting to keep things simple during the factory start-up.
With four wheel options and two tires it's one more complication to deal with during early days.
I don't know who makes the wheels but if it's Enkei in Japan wouldn't Honda have to have ordered some volume of each wheel type months ago, before the plant started up?
Then tires would have to be mounted ready for production to start.
Two tire choices would result in double the wheel/tire start-up inventory.
And what's the chance the exact balance of wheel type and tire type would mirror the actual orders being placed?
Probably no chance as Honda has no experience yet as to the "normal" wheel type mix.
Then you'd have orders you can't produce while waiting for the correct wheel/tire combo.
Wouldn't it be more practical for Honda to try and manage the wheel choices alone rather than wheel and tire options at this point.

As previously mentioned by others Honda is not experienced in building custom orders nor catering to demands of well-heeled owners accustomed to individual service so may take some time before they get good at it.

Would expect the optional tire and steel brakes etc to become available down the road once the plant is running well, orders being shipped etc.

 

[chrisn]

The fact that PS Cup2 tires (and the like) are suboptimal (scary) in heavy rain is not new information. It is reasonable to decide to NOT ship the car with such a tire, and be silent on tire choices. It is UNREASONABLE to feed info to press (and include on their website) indication that optional performance tires are available, and then NOT offer them. My dealer told me "supply issues." Umm.....these are hand-built, one-off cars. If Tire Rack can get the tires, Honda can.

I screen grabbed this from Acura's website just now (professional annotation added by me):

- - - Updated - - -

There are probably a million permutations of potential specs for each NSX, each requiring a unique mix of parts and labor (and requires supporting inventory and supply chain). The incremental complexity of honoring promised choice or brakes and tires is essentially nil. Something else is going on.

 

[JD Cross]

Something else is going on.

Chris
You're probably right.
And like the production delays we're not likely to find out much at this point.

It's not often one gets to be a spectator for a brand new car launch.
Perhaps these are all normal things during early days?

But I'm sure there'll be an optional tire offered sometime in the future as Honda has made the comment on numerous occasions.

Meantime one can buy whatever tire they choose from tire rack for the driving they plan to do.

 

[kendallj]

In New Zealand, we have a saying 'Four Seasons in One Day", so the stock Continentals will be a good compromise tire. What sort of money is involved for a second set of rims and track performance tires? If one is going to spend the fairly large sum required for this car and it's rather pricey options, is another dedicated set for track use going to be that bigger deal? Thanks.