NSX-R vs. M6

[KSXNSX]

http://honda-portal.com/videos.php?video_id=76

Having driven the M6, I am going to say that you will have a lot of wheelspin on the launch. But he was just taking it easy. I am sure he could have caught up with all that power at hand. And I am not sure if he was using the launch control feature. It's the usual from these guys. But still fun to watch

IMO, the NSX still looks better than a car designed 10+ years after it.

 

[Swift]

beautiful.

He had wheelspin...but if he can catch up with that much power on tap?

What is the power to weight ratio ...difference.?

 

[dlynes]

i love the m6...but i thought the nsx would have done better because i thought the m6 was very heavy...but i guess with another 300 hp m6 made up for the weight

 

[BD]

http://honda-portal.com/videos.php?video_id=81

 

[KSXNSX]

http://honda-portal.com/videos.php?video_id=81

If I am reading that correctly, a Ferrari 512TR beat a Lambo Gallardo!?

 

[BD]

If I am reading that correctly, a Ferrari 512TR beat a Lambo Gallardo!?

Yes, Gallardo is almost as heavy as the 512 TR. It is no slug. In fact, it's replacement 550 was little slower.

 

[amgnsx]

http://honda-portal.com/videos.php?video_id=81

thanks for the vids vance

so in the end who won the race? 911T or Zo6?

 

[Angelo08]

If I am reading that correctly, a Ferrari 512TR beat a Lambo Gallardo!?

The 512TRs have tremendous power upstairs. Not bad for a mid to high 12 second factory car in 92. I have never driven a Gallardo but have read their 1/4 times to be in the same range as the V12 TR.

 

[Tai]

The 911 won.

The M6 had launch control on, traction control off, and was set to P500S. The M6 is terribly fat and not that fast off the line. The race was about as accurate as could be.

 

[NSXGMS]

Yes, Gallardo is almost as heavy as the 512 TR. It is no slug. In fact, it's replacement 550 was little slower.

512TR curb weight: ~3,650 lbs (0-62 mph ~4.8 sec; 1/4 mile ~12.8 sec)

550M curb weight: ~3,725 lbs (0-60 mph ~4.2-4.3 sec [varies]; 1/4 mile ~12.6-13.1 [varies widely])

Gallardo curb weight: ~3,150 lbs (0-60 mph ~4.1-4.3 sec [varies]; 1/4 mile 12.4 sec)

Comparing the 512M (which was faster than the 512TR) to the 550:

Compared to the 512M, the 550 had three inches more leg room and 1.5 inches more head room, plus a larger trunk and a small storage area behind the seats. Yet it accelerated more quickly -- 4.3 seconds 0-60 mph. It was faster -- a real top speed just shy of 200 mph. And it handled considerably better -- the 550 was more than three seconds quicker than the 512M around Ferrari’s Fiorano test track.

So I'm at a loss regarding the assertion that 1) the 512TR has comparable weight to the Gallardo and 2) the 512TR was measurably faster than the 550M. Looks to me like the 512TR on its best day is about equal to a 550M on its worst day.

I'm not sure how either the 512TR or the 550M could beat a Gallardo in any capacity assuming the same driver.

...The M6 had launch control on, traction control off, and was set to P500S. The M6 is terribly fat and not that fast off the line. The race was about as accurate as could be.

The E60/61 M5/M6 consistently test in the 4.1-4.3 sec range 0-60. It might be "terribly fat" but it seems to be consistently faster than the Gallardo and more or less equal to the 996TT which also consistently runs in the 3.9-4.2 sec range. It might have had electronic aids on in this instance but it is normally very, very quick off the line.

 

[KSXNSX]

512TR curb weight: ~3,650 lbs (0-62 mph ~4.8 sec; 1/4 mile ~12.8 sec)

550M curb weight: ~3,725 lbs (0-60 mph ~4.2-4.3 sec [varies]; 1/4 mile ~12.6-13.1 [varies widely])

Gallardo curb weight: ~3,150 lbs (0-60 mph ~4.1-4.3 sec [varies]; 1/4 mile 12.4 sec)

Comparing the 512M (which was faster than the 512TR) to the 550:

Compared to the 512M, the 550 had three inches more leg room and 1.5 inches more head room, plus a larger trunk and a small storage area behind the seats. Yet it accelerated more quickly -- 4.3 seconds 0-60 mph. It was faster -- a real top speed just shy of 200 mph. And it handled considerably better -- the 550 was more than three seconds quicker than the 512M around Ferrari’s Fiorano test track.

So I'm at a loss regarding the assertion that 1) the 512TR has comparable weight to the Gallardo and 2) the 512TR was measurably faster than the 550M. Looks to me like the 512TR on its best day is about equal to a 550M on its worst day.

I'm not sure how either the 512TR or the 550M could beat a Gallardo in any capacity assuming the same driver.



The E60/61 M5/M6 consistently test in the 4.1-4.3 sec range 0-60. It might be "terribly fat" but it seems to be consistently faster than the Gallardo and more or less equal to the 996TT which also consistently runs in the 3.9-4.2 sec range. It might have had electronic aids on in this instance but it is normally very, very quick off the line.

You can clearly see the M6 driver short-shifting at one point or another.

 

[acura92nsx]

Great find!

 

[NSXGMS]

You can clearly see the M6 driver short-shifting at one point or another.

I saw nothing that would indicate that. Only excessive wheelspin that basically cost the M6 the chance at victory. Are you talking about the M6 vs NSX-R race? That's the only one I saw w/ the M6. The M6 had the SMG; it should be shifting much faster than the NSX and easier to avoid short-shifting.