new nsx-r RE-070 tyres
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Also - anyone tried, or planning to try, the new OEM 2002 NSX tires, the RE040 H0?
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[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 11 September 2002).]
Does anyone know if these tires are NSX-specific ??
Also, do they come in other (ideally larger) sizes ??
Also, do they come in other (ideally larger) sizes ??
The RE-040 are not NSX specific per say. Bridgestone designed the tires and Honda adapted the suspension to the tires. There are couple of other cars from different manufacturers that run the RE-040 Tires. The tires do come in 215-40-17 and 255-35-18 for those that run 17/18, however 255 may be a little too narrow for those with 10 inch rear 18 wheels. The tire has received poor feedback rating on Tirerack of 4.4 out of 10.
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Are you saying that the suspension on the 2002 NSX is therefore different from the '91-01?
That is true also of the RE010 (and the Yokohama A022). However, the NSX-specific version of the RE010 is designated as the RE010 H0 and RE010 H1 (for the '91-93 sizes and the '94-01 sizes); for other applications (which are not corner-specific and don't have the built-in bias or compound differences, etc) it is designated simply the RE010. The same thing is true of the Yokohama A022; the NSX-specific versions are designated as the A022H0 and A022H1, and the other-application version is designated as the A022A.
I know that the RE040 tires that come on the 2002 NSX is designated as the RE040 H0. Are you sure that the version for other cars (which undoubtedly accounts for all the survey responses) isn't a different version of the RE040, just as is true for the RE010 and the A022?
The RE-070 is the NA2 NSX-R tire. It is very expensive for what you get.
As Alex says, the RE-040 is pretty common (available on the Audi A6, Audi TT, BMW Z8, among others). I'd be curious how well it performs relative to the other OE tires from earlier years. I wonder if they aren't a little less sporty.
-- Chris
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As Alex says, the RE-040 is pretty common (available on the Audi A6, Audi TT, BMW Z8, among others). I'd be curious how well it performs relative to the other OE tires from earlier years. I wonder if they aren't a little less sporty.
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The Bridgestone RE-010 was originally developed for the NSX and later was also used on the Integra Type-R. The RE-040 were made available on other cars such as the Toyota MR-2 before the tires were chosen for the 2002 NSX by Honda. While the RE-040 sizes of 215/40/17 and 255/40/17 are specific for the NSX, it is probably not as "purpose designed" for the NSX as the
RE-010 tires.
Regarding the question of the suspension, it is true that later model years have different shock and/or spring settings. A couple owners of 2001 NSXs mentioned that the ride felt significantly softer than the earlier models 91-94s, with one owner comparing to a grand touring car. I have not verified what the settings are for the 2002, but given the changes in the wheel sizes, tire model changes, and aero changes, it is likely that the shocks/springs are slightly different also. The different shocks/springs throughout the model years can be seen by the different part numbers for shocks and springs available. There are at least 4 different shock/spring combos from 91-2001.
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RE-010 tires.
Regarding the question of the suspension, it is true that later model years have different shock and/or spring settings. A couple owners of 2001 NSXs mentioned that the ride felt significantly softer than the earlier models 91-94s, with one owner comparing to a grand touring car. I have not verified what the settings are for the 2002, but given the changes in the wheel sizes, tire model changes, and aero changes, it is likely that the shocks/springs are slightly different also. The different shocks/springs throughout the model years can be seen by the different part numbers for shocks and springs available. There are at least 4 different shock/spring combos from 91-2001.
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(from TireRack website) http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/general/speed.htm
Z=149 MPH, 240km/h and over, Sports cars
W=168 MPH, 270km/h,and over, Exotic Sports cars
Y=186 MPH, 300km/h,and over, Exotic Sports cars
When Z-speed rated tires were first introduced, they were thought to reflect the highest speed rating that would ever be required. Since that time the automotive industry has found it necessary to add W- and Y-speed ratings (indicated in the tire’s service description) to identify the tires that meet the needs of new vehicles that have extremely high, top speed capabilities.
While all Z-speed rated tires are capable of speeds of 149 mph and above, prior to the W- and Y-speed ratings were identified in the service, how far above 149 mph was not identified.
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so Y > W
all Y and W are Z (>149 mph)
Z can be either W or Y
Z is potentially better than W, but at best equal to Y... AFAIK there are no road tires rated above 186 mph...
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hehe good catch, my brain was not thinking correctly and forgot about the reversed tire speed rating for Y and Z.
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That, in and of itself, does not mean that the tire is not NSX specific.
For example, the RE010 tire comes in an NSX-specific version (technically, they are designated RE010 H0 and RE010 H1) in the stock NSX sizes, and in a non-specific version in a different size, as used on the Integra Type R in the States. If I'm not mistaken, it even comes in a 16" size for the JDM ITR that's the same size as - but a different designation from - the NSX-specific tire.
Anyone has a set of these tires installed? I'd like to know what kind of ride quality the RE070 gives....
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