New Member Loves/Respects the NSX...

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Hi guys,I'm from www.ClubLexus.com and I was prompted here by "Fury"... I hope to acquire a broader knowledge of the NSX and hopefully maybe becoming an owner of such a fine auto(After I get an 89'Porsche 951{944}Turbo S...}

I was recently defending the virtues of the NSX and sort of renewed my attraction to this car.

View the discussion below and give me your input whether I was right in my asessments about the NSX... I go by "The Ikon" in Club Lexus too...
http://www.clublexus.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18338&pagenumber=1

The Ikon

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Lexus SC 400
Karmann Ghia 1776c engine
 
Ikon,

Hey there and welcome aboard. Glad to see you're serious about learning about the NSX. You'll find tons of info here, and a wealth of knowledge to be gained by posting questions.

Just like you'll be popping in over here, I'll continue to stick my head in over there at www.ClubLexus.com. I need to keep learning about my newly acquired SC.
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1995 NSX-T
1997 Integra GS-R 4-dr
1999 3.2TL
2001 Odyssey
 
Fury, glad to see you are here. Thanks for the lead to this site. I'm eager so be patient with the ???'s I will be asking...
 
Welcome Ikon
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Fury,
which SC do you have? I would also think it's time to update your "sig" since you got a new car
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NSXTASY
 
I'm eager so be patient with the ???'s I will be asking...

Of course. Don't forget to check out the FAQ though, where you may find answers to many of your questions. The FAQ has a table of contents that's very useful at http://www.nsxprime.com/toc.htm

Welcome to the NSXprime forums!
 
Welcome IKON -

I glanced through that discussion and it looks pretty accurate overall. I would say your comments reflect someone who has actually driven the car, while many others do not.

There are two peoeple who seem anti-NSX, one who says he owned one but didn't like it... Hey, not every car is for everyone. He sums it up well when he says "I don't think necessarily that the SC300 is more FUN to drive, but it does do what it is designed to do a lot better than the NSX does... " He is right, the SC300 is much better at what the SC300 was designed for than the NSX. The NSX has a totally different design goal than the SC300. That goal is right for some, wrong for others.

The only real misinformation in that thread is from a guy who seems to have a beef against the NSX for some reason and is intent on disuading you from it with false assertations (i.e. a "design flaw" causing you to spend "$1600 every 6000 miles") I suspect he is referring to the infamous rear tire wear issue, but his numbers are way, way off, and it is not a design "flaw," it is part of the design GOAL - to deliver an all-out GT sports car, not a sporty coupe that gets 30,000 miles to a set of tires. Again, that goal may not meet everyone's needs, and there is certainly nothing wrong with sporty coupes that get 30,000 miles out of a set of tires. They are just a different kind of car.

With factory alignment and tires on an NSX, it is indeed reasonable to expect to replace rear tires roughly every 6000 miles, though I actually got more like 7000 on the street when I used factory tires. Fronts will typically last twice as long as rears. However, the cost right around $400 for a pair of OEM tires - nowhere near $1600.

Some owners like the car as delivered from the factory and to be honest 10 cents a mile in tires ($1200 in tires every 12,000 miles) is fairly reasonable for a really high-performance sports car. For example the C5 has tires which last longer but cost more, again coming to somewhere around 10 cents a mile. Ferrari 355 tires cost twice as much and last even less time those on the NSX.

Those who do want to improve tire life have two options: reduce the aggressive factory alignment settings and/or switch to aftermarket tires. There are always tradeoffs involved when changing alignment or tires, but it sounds like you have a heavily modified car so you probably know all about that already.
 
Yes, I agree with Lud that some of it is accurate. But some of the opinions are rather absurd.

First, I'm a bit surprised that people would compare a Lexus SC with an NSX, just because they're such different kinds of cars. One of the posters there (SCV8) mentioned this as well as Lud. The SC is a great luxury sport coupe, with the emphasis on luxury, not on sport. It is most definitely not a sports car, let alone a "supercar".

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SC weighs around 3600 pounds - even more than the Supra, which is widely acknowledged to be very heavy - and had, as I recall, 200 hp for the SC300 and 250 hp for the SC400 (which was only available with an automatic). Please correct me if these numbers are wrong.

For anyone to call the NSX, with 600(!) fewer pounds and many more horses - "horribly underpowered" in comparison is just plain silly. Obviously spoken by someone who has never driven the NSX in the upper part of its revband.
 
Fury,
which SC do you have? I would also think it's time to update your "sig" since you got a new car

Veleno,
Ooops, I must've goofed. I thought I got to all my signatures. Okay, it's fixed now.
BTW, I have an '92 SC400 (with only 25K miles!!).

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1995 NSX-T
1999 3.2TL
2001 Odyssey
1992 SC400

[This message has been edited by FuryNSX (edited 25 July 2001).]
 
=SC4 horse power is 250-260 and 260-270 tq 92'- 96'
=Weight is about 3,450 SC3 - 3,550 SC4...
=290 HP and 300 tq 97'- 99'

I think the power of the NSX is more than adequate for the "average" driver as well as an ethusiast. Spend a few $$$ and the power freaks should be satisfied too....

Thank guys for the warm welcome... I will visit this site regularly.

The Ikon
 
Ikon,
Your assesments about these cars are correct.
I owned a '92 SC400 for 5 years and I am on my second NSX now. I love my SC4, I think the body style is timeless like the NSX. But that's where the similarity ends. Don't get me wrong, the SC is a heavy GT with an emphasize in comfort and not performance, and the NSX is an all out performance car.

The SC still perform respectably, I think it's better than my '91 POS BMW 850i that I used to own too. And talking about flawless quality, it's the highest quality car I've ever own, even more trouble free than my '98 GS400 or the NSXs. In my 5 years 67,000 miles of ownership, the only non-fluid items I replaced were a set of tires and the front brake pads.

I love both cars, and I think once you own an NSX, you'll be able to appreciate both cars even more.
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Originally posted by nsxtasy:
...compare a Lexus SC with an NSX, .... definitely not a sports car, let alone a "supercar".

WELCOME IKON! First let state I like both cars and was actually considering the SC for my wife before we decided on the SLK.

However a Lexus SC to an NSX? Give me a break. They're both really great cars designed for completely different customer segments. One's hand made and one's not. One is rare the other no so rare. One is used in GT race, road races, autocross the other I don't recall seeing appear in these events.

So what classifies a car as a sports car and for that matter a supercar? Maybe that's the problem, what defines a sportscar. Could a SmartCar or Geometro be classified as a sports car if it's been lowered, turbo'd and entered into an autocross event?

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A lot of articles have been written in the buff magazines over the years about what constitutes a sports car. Some people say that only a two-seater is a sports car. Some people say that only a convertible is a sports car. And now you raise another interesting question - whether a car which, stock, is NOT a sports car can be considered a sports car with the proper modifications. All interesting questions, and ones that each of us would probably answer differently.
 
re: the above linked thread

Flying down an L.A. freeway at 158MPH on a "clear southern cali day" sounds pretty dangerous AND preposterous, IMHO.

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1995 NSX-T
1999 3.2TL
2001 Odyssey
1992 SC400


[This message has been edited by FuryNSX (edited 25 July 2001).]
 
Flying down an L.A. freeway at 158MPH on a "clear southern cali day" sounds pretty dangerous AND preposterous, IMHO.

How about this part:

"By the first 1/4 mile we reached about 100mph, seeing people scream obscenities through there window as I pass. lol. well thought that enough was enough so i take him in the far right lane at around 120 , see a clearing in the carpool, cross all four lanes cutting the guy off with about 3 inches to spare between his front bumper and my rear, and pull on him till i hit about 140 and turn on my hazards..smiled again but i guess he wasnt in the mood after that."

If that's a true story, this guy is an absolute jerk, a real menace to society. If I saw him do that on the road, I'd try to stay as far away from him as possible. Not exactly behavior that makes other drivers smile, is it?
 
Originally posted by THE IKON:
What is your opinion of this thread?
http://www.clublexus.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18583

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Have any of you ever driven down 101 on a clear sunny afternoon? I'm having a very hard time buying that story. And if it's true I wonder how long it will take before he shows up in the paper - arrested or killed.
 
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It's hard to believe that any year NSX would lose to any Lexus(unless it's Rod M supercharged...)
 
Just for yucks, I registered there and sent a shot across the bow. Really stupid guy, so I couldn't resist. Sorry...
 
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