Set by Ricardo Zonta in this year's Toyota F1 car.
New Laguna Seca Track Record
- Thread starter Hugh
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Thanks Hugh
Great find.
I enjoyed all the video clips. :smile:
Great find.
I enjoyed all the video clips. :smile:
Here's what some other folks had to say:
http://www.apexspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18795
I was just telling Hrant that with the new configuration and paving that had just been done, there's no direct comparison to previous lap times.
But more to the point, the paving job was really bad and has wash-boarded something fierce.
http://www.apexspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18840
I have 3 races there in the next 7 weeks so you can bet I'm going to be changing my setup quite a bit. Should be interesting;
we should get points for keeping the car on the track.
http://www.apexspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18795
I was just telling Hrant that with the new configuration and paving that had just been done, there's no direct comparison to previous lap times.
But more to the point, the paving job was really bad and has wash-boarded something fierce.
http://www.apexspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18840
I have 3 races there in the next 7 weeks so you can bet I'm going to be changing my setup quite a bit. Should be interesting;
we should get points for keeping the car on the track.
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Re: "New" Laguna Seca surface
More gossip from another forum:
"I had a chance to ride around Laguna Seca today (9-07) and the bumps in turn 9 are bad. The track was BETTER before the repave job! The track has been changed between turn 6 and the corkscrew. The banks on both sides have been moved back 20 feet on both sides and the slight stair step half way up is gone. All in all the sight lines and visual reference point are completely different. The more they change Sears and Laguna the more I like Thunderhill."
More gossip from another forum:
"I had a chance to ride around Laguna Seca today (9-07) and the bumps in turn 9 are bad. The track was BETTER before the repave job! The track has been changed between turn 6 and the corkscrew. The banks on both sides have been moved back 20 feet on both sides and the slight stair step half way up is gone. All in all the sight lines and visual reference point are completely different. The more they change Sears and Laguna the more I like Thunderhill."
Re: "New" Laguna Seca surface
I had no idea or knowledge of repaving track surface, but we had the on-going exact same thing at our local track. The "repaving" surface is always bumpier?? I understood if it's city street, the bumpier surface is always due to patching the surface, a low cost short term remedy instead of torning the whole section down and repaving.
I had no idea or knowledge of repaving track surface, but we had the on-going exact same thing at our local track. The "repaving" surface is always bumpier?? I understood if it's city street, the bumpier surface is always due to patching the surface, a low cost short term remedy instead of torning the whole section down and repaving.
Re: New Pavement; not that easy
This will be more than you wanted to know, but there's probably a few reasons why Laguna is bad. I know the County controls the facility and it's at least plausible that they had their street maintenance people design, inspect and administer the repaving job instead of a more specialized paving consultant who would have done some homework on track paving. Translated: they might have been a little cavalier (sloppy) about it. Hard to believe, but asphalt paving is kind of like cooking; more art than the science we expect it to be and some long accepted specifications are being changed, so possibly the recipe wasn't the greatest. Who knows, maybe they tried a "rubber" mix; that's fashionable these days. Installation is the most likely problem; the track is kinda out in the sticks, so maybe the mix was not hot enough when laid and the rolling may have been late, or early or not enough or too much.
Rumor has it, it will be fixed before the big boys (Moto GP) come back. Until then, the rest of us users will just have to deal with it, just like what they did with the acres of gravel traps that are indeed car traps. But don't get me started on that.
End of rant.
No, shouldn't be that way at all. Infineon was repaved over 3 years ago, just before NSXPO and was an excellent job.
This will be more than you wanted to know, but there's probably a few reasons why Laguna is bad. I know the County controls the facility and it's at least plausible that they had their street maintenance people design, inspect and administer the repaving job instead of a more specialized paving consultant who would have done some homework on track paving. Translated: they might have been a little cavalier (sloppy) about it. Hard to believe, but asphalt paving is kind of like cooking; more art than the science we expect it to be and some long accepted specifications are being changed, so possibly the recipe wasn't the greatest. Who knows, maybe they tried a "rubber" mix; that's fashionable these days. Installation is the most likely problem; the track is kinda out in the sticks, so maybe the mix was not hot enough when laid and the rolling may have been late, or early or not enough or too much.
Rumor has it, it will be fixed before the big boys (Moto GP) come back. Until then, the rest of us users will just have to deal with it, just like what they did with the acres of gravel traps that are indeed car traps. But don't get me started on that.
End of rant.
