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My experience consists of auto-x and dry street driving on the s2000,but I went from the ao32r directly to this tire.The dry grip is better, turn in is sharper, the tire is quiet,my only unknown is longevity.And I,m keeping track of that.Ken if your happy with the performance-cost/benefit ratio of the yokos then you probably don't need the pilots.I was looking for better auto-x times which I,m getting from the pilots.