lug nut question

[ryneen]

I've been using the same lug nuts for dozens of track events. They've been tightened and loosened many times. I'd like to get some new ones since they are so old. Are all lug nuts the same shape/quality/size or do I need to order a special size & shape?

Also, is it wise to replace the wheel studs as well over time?

Thanks in advance for the info.
ryan rush

 

[Briank]

Honda uses a acorn seat which is differs for the tapered style used by others.

They should not need to be replaced unless they have been abused, over tightened, cross threaded or the threads have just gotten bad. If they are bad enough to replace then I would replace the studs and nuts at the same time.

FYI info

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=159931

http://www.daliracing.com/v666-5/catalog/index_browse_part.cfm?focus=2006

 

[ryneen]

Thank you.
ryan

 

[John McCain Racing]

A few companies make lugs that are Forged Aluminum that are super light. :biggrin:

 

[NSXDreamer2]

A few companies make lugs that are Forged Aluminum that are super light. :biggrin:

but for racing purposes, meaning if you used to use impact wrench or any power tools to tighten/loosen the nuts, these aluminum one is not recommended. (They require hand tighten with hand tools, followed with torque wrench)

 

[John McCain Racing]

but for racing purposes, meaning if you used to use impact wrench or any power tools to tighten/loosen the nuts, these aluminum one is not recommended. (They require hand tighten with hand tools, followed with torque wrench)

Racing purposes? The driver, owner and pit crew are the same person! I hand tighten mine with a torque wrench anyways. The impact wrench is bound to make a mark on my wheels at some point. :wink:

 

[Sonic*]

Just wanted to ask a question to anyone who is running aluminium lug nuts. Do you guys have a soft insert(nylon/plastic)for your wrench to stop them from getting damaged? I don't want to take the anodizing off when they're tightened.

Cheers.

 

[jaffaz32]

Just wanted to ask a question to anyone who is running aluminium lug nuts. Do you guys have a soft insert(nylon/plastic)for your wrench to stop them from getting damaged? I don't want to take the anodizing off when they're tightened.

Cheers.

You mean like what's happened to mine only being fitted and removed twice?!

Aluminum lugs are very soft!

It sucks, you can't tick all the boxes. Open ended, light, strong, cool looking and red!

 

[R13]

Not all are created equal.

Lug seat should depend on the type of wheel you're running:

• OEM Wheels will need a "ball seat" which looks rounded
• Most popular aftermarket wheels use a conical seat.

It's VITAL to get the correct lug seat for the wheel otherwise it's not going to mate correctely when tighten and can lead to all kinds of problems.

Also, I'll add a +1 for steel lugs when you're talking about lots of on/off mixed with high temperature track use. AL lugs can strip out if re-tightened when hot enough and/or with too much on/off. They're light and look pretty, but the few ounces they save aren't worth the potential headache IMO.

[edit: Jeez, old thread, lol]

 

[illwillem]

Ive always used a lug that is softer than the stud but replaced them every 50 or so track events. Reason being that if you gunna damage something better it be the lug that have to change the stud.

Once I replace the studs as a wear item in the first few years of ownership with a higher grade metal (ARP,, H&R, etc) ill switch to a steel lug and not replace then as often.

I'm not sure the expansion rate differences when using different metals but experience and butt dyno has told me that. steel on steel stays within tq spec after sessions better than ti and steel or aluminum and steel.

 

[docjohn]

I have many spare nuts that i rotate in when the old one binds at all or has any issues biting on the bolt.

 

[nsxtasy]

I have many spare nuts that i rotate in

Is that a reference to the students to whom you give rides on the racetrack?

 

[docjohn]

If thats your only reference Ken....you are being too kind:wink: