Lazy man fluid flush

[NSXDreamer2]

Hi all, lately my career is taking a sharp turn, I could not devote as much time and attention to my car as before. (couldn't stop thinking about it and checking on prime though)

I'm wondering what could be the draw back, if, say, changing a fluid by simple using a turkey blaster sucking out the existing fluid in reservior then fill up with new fluid, instead of doing a full job. I'm talking about brake, ABS and maybe clutch. As I mentioned, a lazy man way, I understand this would not help if you have air trapped in your system, but as an effort to keep the fluid clean... (if you do often enough!) Seems like one can do all these within a "pit stop" at gas station.

 

[hlweyl]

That would be like changing half the oil... why bother?? My advice would be to treat your car good, go all the way and bleed properly, it's not that hard of a job.

good luck

 

[NSXDreamer2]

Dude, did you read my situation?? No offence, BTW :tongue:

I agreed exactly what you saying, but, as of turning 60-70 hrs for five days, with hour and half to two hours commute; plus 16 hours part-time in the weekends. I just couldn't spare any full day off to work on my car!!! In a way if I can find a way to replace half of the motor oil without accessing the oil plug and changing filters to get thru next month, I'll probably do that too.

I'm wondering if this compromise half ass job will do any (READ any) good??

 

[Viper Driver]

I'll answer your question with another one.

There's a gallon of spoiled milk in your refrigerator. Would you drink it if you drained the spoiled milk you could get out with a turkey baster, and then filling it back up with fresh milk?

 

[NSXDreamer2]

hey, be nice to me!!! but if I'm in desert, and I need to drink it in anyway, sure the one with half "clean" milk would get me further, agree?? LOL

 

[ss_md]

Half ass is half ass . . . Take the car to the dealer and have them flush it if you are too busy, it's better than doing a half assed job. Your NSX deserves better.

 

[amgnsx]

Half ass is half ass . . . Take the car to the dealer and have them flush it if you are too busy, it's better than doing a half assed job. Your NSX deserves better.

I Agree!!!!

Sorry to hear that. But it's probabbly best to just bring the car in for service and pay someone if your too busy to do it your self?

 

[NSXDreamer2]

Wow, I guess I'm really asking for flames here, if taking it to a shop to work on it is an option, I can sure I'll find the time doing it myself that. Let me be specific on my situation: Day after day, I found myself waking up at 6am, getting to the office around 7am, (later if I decided my car need a quick wash), I don't find myself getting out of the office before 7pm, (sometime i stayed till midnight). Weekend: part time work hours: 7am-3pm.

I'm asking for flames here so I can get my lazy ass out to perform the needed work in those two weekend daytime, but I still have a wife that I needed to please. (I don't talk much to her except brief cell ph. conversation or good night honey right after I got home) My work is destructing my life I guess.

Anyway, stop complaining, (I'm yelling at myself), but you see, find a dealer who would do work within those time? I do have my buddy 10 mins away from my work place, but seems like I need to spend sometime there if I want him to do the work= not working. I'm more concern of ABS Flush, those Blue ATE fluid (that God knows how long it's been) there worries me....

 

[drew]

Hey guys, this is a fair question. Time is most limited thing we have on this planet, so you want to Maximize Your Time on Earth.

The fluid that needs changing is NOT in the reservior. The fluid is a hydrate that picks up moisture whereever it can, the majority of the fluid in the reservior is insulated from this moisture/dirt.

The fluid at the farthest ends of the system, in the calipers, pick up the dirt and water from the caliper piston moving back and forth. This dirt/moisture pits the caliper lining, ruins the seals and can be boiled at a much lower temperature. Your brakes will stick unevenly, drag and eventually become ruined....it might take 10 years for the system to become completly ruined. Regular changing of the fluid can prolong the life of your brake system indefinately

So changing out the reservoir [only] would help -- JUST NOT VERY MUCH.

Do your best to make time and do it one day.

 

[PoohBEAR]

The way I look at it, if you are working that much hours.....you do have $$$ to spare. Now drop it off the shop and pay a little of that BIG chunk $$$ to the professional.

 

[drew]

Professional: Means they do it for a living, DOES NOT mean they know what they are doing.

Generally, if you want it done correctly you _must_ do it yourself.

OR find an artist-expert that will do the work, but they are very rare and usually overworked.

 

[comquat1]

The way I look at it, if you are working that much hours.....you do have $$$ to spare. Now drop it off the shop and pay a little of that BIG chunk $$$ to the professional.

I agree, working that many hours must mean some good ammount of funds are available to drop it off at a dealer and have it done properly. Don't get me wrong, I love working on my car as much as the next guy, but there comes a point where your time is much better spent doing other things and having a professional do your car work while you are busy.

On another note, it sounds like some priorities need to be readdressed to be happier regardless of compensation? No offense inteneded but last time I checked happiness was not aquired through rediculous hours of working away from a wife and rediculously fun car.

 

[SexyRed]

Nsxdreamer,
I always turkey bast all my fluids. Except engine and tranny fluids. Every time I change the brake fluids I notice the difference. I try to keep my brake fluids as clear as possible. It is quick to change all the fluids this way. Heck, I usually suck all the fluids just about every oil change, especially brake fluids.

Drew,
I agree with you about "professional." My friend is a Honda Master Tech. I can tell you hanging out at the dealership garage you would be amaze what little they know. Only the master tech know there stuff. The rest of the techs are nothing more than fluids changer, tire rotator, brake service.

The rest of you flame away.

Danny

 

[NSXDreamer2]

thanks for all the responses, I live in a very different life than most of the nsx primers over here, I'm not a rich kid nor having a good job that I could be proud of. No. I don't actually get good compensation to it. In reality, my company don't even pay me anything. Good thing is that the ridiculous hours I put in is recorded, and I would definately use them towards my NSXPO trip in Oct. wow, i'm drifting off the topic, maybe I should start a new post at the OT asking for advises.

Anyway, thanks for the responses guys, Drew, I totally agreed on your opinions on the brake fluid; so could anyone tell me why it won't work on ABS unit using the turkey blaster lazy-man way??

 

[Larry Bastanza]

I agree with Drew's assessment, however he is being too kind about:

"JUST NOT VERY MUCH".

It really is a waste of time IMO. If the entire system is not flushed you will still have old, crappy fluid in the lines where it is most important. In regard to the ABS it is even more of a waste, if you cannot get the fluid out of the modulator you are doing nothing.

Understanding your situation does not really change the facts.

JMO,
LarryB

 

[rcove]

The action of removing the fluid from the reservior with the turkey baster as part of the flushing of the brake fluid will make a better and faster job. I remove the fluid from the reservior as the first step followed by cleaning the reservoir and filling with fresh fluid. Then bleeding each wheel until the clean fluid comes through. This eliminates air in the system and reduces the flushing time considerably.

 

[hlweyl]

thanks for all the responses, I live in a very different life than most of the nsx primers over here, I'm not a rich kid nor having a good job that I could be proud of.

I think you're making a pretty big assumption regarding most members on this board. We could all post war stories regarding times in our lives that we worked ridiculous hours.

I worked 7 days a week for over 1 year straight at one point, I also put myself through school at Johns Hopkins putting alot of hours clinical and class WHILE raising two kids 3 and 1 yrs old at the time. To me, that's still not a reason to do other things half-a$$ed.

 

[Briank]

If you are not going to do it right don't do it at all. A lot of cars including some NSX's go their entire life with out having the brake fluid flushed with no ill affect.

 

[NSXDreamer2]

guess I just need to set my priorities straight then, now the rain is back, and I'm getting the nsxtasy approved charger. I'm going to put the nsx back in the garage and drive my daily beater. Thanks for everyone's input.

 

[drew]

NSXDreamer2 here is some advice:

Worry about keeping your wife happy, involved and give her attention. If work is getting in the way of that, then you NEED to cut back on the hours.

Lots of jobs out there, only one wife. There is NO JOB that requires you to ruin your life. (Unless you work for Steve Jobs.)

If you are the only person that can do the work, your boss will understand that you need some time for your relationship. Also, if the company is going down, no point in staying on until it sinks completely...get off and ride another one.

You also need a reliable car, when it doesn't work: it is the more important thing in the world.

NSX CONTENT: Get some speedbleeder.com at $10 ea. They will make the job quick easy and quite affordable. Do no plunge down on the master cylinder more than normal, use a block of wood behind the pedal to keep from going all the way down.

**

As for my job: I'm STILL a low level city employee that makes ok wages. When I was younger, I worked at McDonalds at night so I could get free food. Coded for $9/hr@20 hours a week (but, I was really there 40+ hours), took a minimum full time units and when I was "free"; I fixed up my broken down guest house. No time, no money and no prestige.

The city job gives me steady 40 hours (no more unless I want to!), weekends off, incredible benefits (important when you get married...darn there worth my paid wages) and I'm in a position where I like going to work. It also gave me the freedom to do more interesting things in my "free time".

I've made my real money is other ways, outside of my day job. Most people do. Remember that!

Drew