Laser Jammers

[DocL]

I'm interested in installing a laser jammer, either the Blinder M20 or Escort ZR3. The Esocrt model comes with fr/rr protection, while the Blinder can be bought with either fr or fr/rr. Also, the Blinder is readily available wheras I can't seem to find a ZR3 locally.

Anyone who has experience and information with either unit would be greatly appreciated.

-TIA

 

[Malibu Rapper]

DocL, checkout www.guysoflidar.com for a decent jammer review.

 

[RPM217]

I'm interested in installing a laser jammer, either the Blinder M20 or Escort ZR3. The Esocrt model comes with fr/rr protection, while the Blinder can be bought with either fr or fr/rr. Also, the Blinder is readily available wheras I can't seem to find a ZR3 locally.

Anyone who has experience and information with either unit would be greatly appreciated.

-TIA

I've had the Blinder for 4 years, funny thing is it's only gone off 3x, I only have the front install. Think it's a great unit

 

[CL65 Captain]

Blinder is working on a new model, suppose to be done this summer.

 

[comtec]

I'm interested in installing a laser jammer, either the Blinder M20 or Escort ZR3. The Esocrt model comes with fr/rr protection, while the Blinder can be bought with either fr or fr/rr. Also, the Blinder is readily available wheras I can't seem to find a ZR3 locally.

Anyone who has experience and information with either unit would be greatly appreciated.

-TIA

You'll get caught DocL. :biggrin:

 

[ChrisK]

Most of my friend's use the Lidatek laser jammer. Hawaii uses Laser exclusively. They all have had it go off and jam a number of times and so far none of them have gotten a ticket.

 

[BillyIdol]

Aren't laser jammers and radar jammers illegal in the states? I live in California. What are the penalties if you get caught with one? If it is illegal, the reward of not getting tickets might be worth the risk of getting caught.

John

 

[CL65 Captain]

Radar Jammers = illegal - gov by the FCC (you are broadcasting w/o a license)

Laser Jammers = legal (except in a couple of states) - gov by the FDA

Most jammers have a off switch to let the LEO get a speed on you after you slow down so they don't get suspicious.

 

[comtec]

Radar Jammers = illegal - gov by the FCC (you are broadcasting w/o a license)

Laser Jammers = legal (except in a couple of states) - gov by the FDA

Most jammers have a off switch to let the LEO get a speed on you after you slow down so they don't get suspicious.

You are talking about on the federal level. Some states have started re-writing the jammer laws to redefine "radar jammer" and add "all jammers".


Tennessee has already done this so you better check with your state laws.

Jul 29, 2006 - NIWOT, CO - Chapter No. 853] PUBLIC ACTS, 2006 1
CHAPTER NO.
853
SENATE BILL NO. 3702
By Woodson, Miller
Substituted for: House Bill No. 3678
By Dunn, Dean
AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 39, Chapter 16, Part 6, to prohibit devices
used to disrupt or evade certain law enforcement activities.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF TENNESSEE:
SECTION 1. Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 39, Chapter 16, Part 6, is amended by
adding the following as a new section:
§ 39-16-610.
(a) As used in this section:
(1) "Radar jamming device" means any active or passive device,
instrument, mechanism, or equipment that is designed or intended to interfere
with, disrupt, or scramble the radar or laser that is used by law enforcement
agencies and officers to measure the speed of motor vehicles;
(2) "Radar jamming device" includes, but is not limited to, devices
commonly referred to as "jammers" or "scramblers"; and
(3) "Radar jamming device" does not include equipment that is legal
under FCC regulations, such as a citizens' band radio, ham radio, or any other
similar electronic equipment.
(b)(1) It is an offense for any person to knowingly possess or sell a radar
jamming device.
(2) The provisions of this subsection (b) shall not apply to a law
enforcement officer acting in an official capacity.
(c) It is an offense for any person to knowingly operate a motor vehicle with a
radar jamming device in the motor vehicle.
(d) It is an offense for a person to knowingly use a radar jamming device for the
purpose of interfering with the radar signals or lasers used by law enforcement
personnel to measure the speed of a motor vehicle on a highway.
(e) Any radar jamming device that is used in violation of this section is subject to
seizure by any law enforcement officer and may be confiscated and destroyed by order
of the court in which a violation of this section is charged.
Chapter No. 853] PUBLIC ACTS, 2006 2
(f) The provisions of this section shall not apply to law enforcement officers
acting in their official capacity.
(g) (1) A violation of subsections (b) or (c) is a Class C misdemeanor.
(2) A violation of subsection (d) is a Class B misdemeanor.
SECTION 2. This act shall take effect July 1, 2006, the public welfare requiring it.
PASSED: May 17, 2006
APPROVED this 2nd day of June 2006

 

[comtec]

Aren't laser jammers and radar jammers illegal in the states? I live in California. What are the penalties if you get caught with one? If it is illegal, the reward of not getting tickets might be worth the risk of getting caught.

John

Here's cali

This is directly from the California Vehicular code...

CALIFORNIA CODES
VEHICLE CODE
SECTION 28150

28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is
designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing,
disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other
electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the
speed of moving objects.
(b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or
otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming,
scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with
radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law
enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.
(c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of
subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction.
(d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of
subdivision (b), the person is guilty of a misdemeanor.
(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a
valid federal license for operating the devices described in this
section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is
carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the
device is being transported.

2)
For having less then 4 jamming devices installed in the vehicle

Base Fine $25
State PA- $30
County PA-$21
DNA PA- $3
Court PA- 19
Surcharge- $5
Total Bill- $99

For possessing more then 4 devices


Base Fine $200
State PA- $200
County PA-$140
DNA PA- $20
Court PA- 100
Surcharge- $40
Total Bill- $700

 

[CL65 Captain]

Why would anyone have more than 4 jamming devices installed?

 

[MJK]

I'm interested in installing a laser jammer, either the Blinder M20 or Escort ZR3. The Esocrt model comes with fr/rr protection, while the Blinder can be bought with either fr or fr/rr. Also, the Blinder is readily available wheras I can't seem to find a ZR3 locally.

Anyone who has experience and information with either unit would be greatly appreciated.

-TIA

Laser jammers may be illegal, but laser parking distance controllers are not. Oddly enough, sometimes they perform the same function. Who is to say where one starts and the other ends? I can say with the amount of distance I travel (40k mi per year), I think such a device could be extremely useful. I mean I park as much as the next guy.

 

[comtec]

Why would anyone have more than 4 jamming devices installed?

I can only guess that they would try to get you for each emitter. Front and rear, radar and laser = 4. They had to put it in for a reason.



And although the fine (under 4) may seem small compared to a ticket do not forget that they also confiscate the jammer and if it is hard wired in they could conceivably impound the vehicle.

 

[comtec]

Laser jammers may be illegal, but laser parking distance controllers are not. Oddly enough, sometimes they perform the same function. Who is to say where one starts and the other ends? I can say with the amount of distance I travel (40k mi per year), I think such a device could be extremely useful. I mean I park as much as the next guy.

Sorry, still illegal. Read again the wording of the code, it doesn't have to be a jammer.

any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming

The Tennessee code doesn't state the capable part so i don't know here. But the Cali code seems to cover it.

 

[MJK]

I don't live in Cali. Neither does DocL.

Perfectly legal for me to have a parking distance controller.

 

[BluryNSX]

How exactly can they tell that you do or dont have one... with the recent addt. of a 75mph speeding ticket on the highway I am thinking seriously about this..

 

[Coz]

If they can't get you one way, they'll figure out another way to get you...It's all about the money.

Here's cali

Base Fine $25
State PA- $30
County PA-$21
DNA PA- $3
Court PA- 19
Surcharge- $5
Total Bill- $99

For possessing more then 4 devices


Base Fine $200
State PA- $200
County PA-$140
DNA PA- $20
Court PA- 100
Surcharge- $40
Total Bill- $700

 

[comtec]

I don't live in Cali. Neither does DocL.

Perfectly legal for me to have a parking distance controller.

I posted the cali code for John (billy idol). Everyone needs to check with their own state.

btw.. Florida senate has been trying for a while to ban everything including radar detectors.

How exactly can they tell that you do or dont have one... with the recent addt. of a 75mph speeding ticket on the highway I am thinking seriously about this..

 

[BluryNSX]

I posted the cali code for John (billy idol). Everyone needs to check with their own state.

btw.. Florida senate has been trying for a while to ban everything including radar detectors.

wow!! if the system in hardwired into the car though can they really search the whole car or impound it?? I am cool with fines because well those don't stay on your record and raise your ins. plus you don't have to mess with figting each one in court. I would rather mail a check each time

 

[comtec]

wow!! if the system in hardwired into the car though can they really search the whole car or impound it?? I am cool with fines because well those don't stay on your record and raise your ins. plus you don't have to mess with figting each one in court. I would rather mail a check each time

Yes if it is illegal to use in the state it is normally written in the code that it is subject to seizure. That would probably be up to the LEO. It is also possible that he could impound for a system not easily removed. So be nice :biggrin: .

 

[Coz]

States so far with laws.

 

[DocL]

Well guys, I did every impulsive person does and dropped my car off today to have the newest Blinder M25 installed. :biggrin:

 

[Coz]

Not impulsive Doc....Smart and pro active the way I see it.
Let us know how the new M25 works out....

Well guys, I did every impulsive person does and dropped my car off today to have the newest Blinder M25 installed. :biggrin:

 

[prova4re]

I had 6 jammers on my car, 4 laser blinders, and 2 radar jammers.
They all worked great, here are a few pics.

 

[gobble]

DocL

How is this working out for you? I am also interested in the Blinder M25 or the Laser Mask.