iPhone coming to Canada Dec 7th?

Joined
15 October 2002
Messages
4,798
Location
West Vancouver
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/10/27/apple-iphone-launching-on-rogers-december-7th/

iPhone coming to Canada?

rogersiphone.jpg
 
I have one. Have had it for a month now, unlocked locally.

Its a neat little toy. Allows me to web browse, send emails, txt messages, take decent pictures and can add little applications that allows me to view scores, weather, stocks etc. Its also a decent iPod. Its the NSX of cellphone in how it draws a crowd whereever I use it :D
 
Its a neat little toy. Allows me to web browse, send emails, txt messages, take decent pictures and can add little applications that allows me to view scores, weather, stocks etc. Its also a decent iPod. Its the NSX of cellphone in how it draws a crowd whereever I use it :D

My K790 does all that stuff, plus it has a 3.2mp camera, it holds 4 gigs of music on it's card (enough for me). I guess I just don't see the appeal of the Iphone.
 
Well, no doubt there are more capable phones out there but for a non-techno-type person who appreciates simple designs, it works well for me :biggrin:
 
I friend of mine picked it up in Buffalo for around $300 no contract... and got it unlocked in the GTA for $50bux... I've seen it in action pretty slick especially the built in Wifi feature.
 
I'll probably change my mind once I've seen it in person. I'm anti-Apple to start so I'm probably just being biased.

Yeah that doesn't help.

Technically, there are better and more capable devices out there. The appeal of the phone is in its operation. The multi-touch interface and how everything integrates together is what makes this device so much better than the others out there. There are other very slick looking phones with similar form factors, but they fall flat on their face when it comes to usability.
 
mine is 2 months old and it locked up once so far , I had to wait for the batt to die then plug it in and it worked fine since, other than that no probs
 
It's a phone. How complicated are they, really?

That's exactly it. If I handed you a random phone and said "Hey can you conference in so and so", you might be able to figure it out, but most likely you'd have to ask. For someone who's less technically inclined, they may not even know how to switch over for call waiting on an unfamiliar phone.

These are basic phone features and on most phones they are not intuitively obvious. If you want to do something more complex like take a photo and email it to someone then you might as well bust out the manual. All of these things become really simple on a phone that is completely context sensitive and was designed by people who were thinking of the end-user throughout the process. Sadly, most phone manufacturers don't do this, which is patently obvious with all of the incredibly crappy interfaces out there -- even on high end phones.

It doesn't stop at phones either.. very few companies actually care about end-user experience. Another example is the DVR industry. Most people are forced to use the horribly bad Scientific Atlanta DVR's just because that is the most popular with cable providers. It's not until you use something half-decent like a dual tuner TiVO that you realize just how poorly designed and frustratingly bad some of these other interfaces really are.
 
I have a Moto Razr V3T, and have never had to bust out the manual for anything, ever. Maybe I just get technology.

The RAZR is an excellent example of bad user interface. Excellent industrial design, decent underlying technology, crappy user experience.

It's great that you're a techno-wizard, but the point still stands that for the vast majority of people out there, if you hand them an unfamiliar phone and ask them to do things that go beyond simply making a call and hanging up it's not always intuitively obvious what buttons or menu options to press.
 
Well, being an admitted techno-lameass I can say that even the iPhone required some instruction before I managed to get all the functions down. I watched the iPhone user vids on their website and went from there. Whole process took about 40 mins. I gave up on my old Razr V3 which I hear have neat functions but I never got inspired to learn them once I figured out how to make calls and store numbers.
 
It doesn't stop at phones either.. very few companies actually care about end-user experience. Another example is the DVR industry. Most people are forced to use the horribly bad Scientific Atlanta DVR's just because that is the most popular with cable providers. It's not until you use something half-decent like a dual tuner TiVO that you realize just how poorly designed and frustratingly bad some of these other interfaces really are.

I have two Tivo SAT T-60s and the only bad part is that I'd like to upgrade them to HD units and I don't know how to get HD units that will run DTV in Canada - Once you see TIVO (and find out how well it works) the Cable Company (or ExpressVu) PVRs are like a Lada to NSX comparison!

Its hard to contemplate the depth of shittiness that the SA units are at - makes me want to get a stand alone HD TIVO and a no PVR SA unit - the only problem is getting the TIVO to work in Canada!:frown:
 
It doesn't stop at phones either.. very few companies actually care about end-user experience. Another example is the DVR industry. Most people are forced to use the horribly bad Scientific Atlanta DVR's just because that is the most popular with cable providers. It's not until you use something half-decent like a dual tuner TiVO that you realize just how poorly designed and frustratingly bad some of these other interfaces really are.

No kidding. I have two 8300HDs and they aren't so hot. They have improved with the latest firmware updates, though. Before that they were just horrendous. For example if you're watching a show that started at 8 that you're also recording, but you started watching at 8:15, when the show did end at 9 you'd get kicked out of your playback and have to go replay it and find where you were. That's just one example, there were many others.

But I don't think TIVO can interpret the Rogers program guide, can it? Thus to record, you have to set things up manually? That'd be a pain. And of course I need HD capability.
 
Stu -- I haven't looked into running HD TiVo's in Canada. Are you sure it doesn't "Just work" with your subscription? I'd google around, I'm sure other people have tried it.

Brad: That particular problem was particularly annoying especially since the maximum fast-forward speed was really slow (I heard they increased it recently). The problem you're describing was even more ludicrous when the show you were watching was NOT the one you were recording and it still did the same thing. WTF?!?!?! BTW, you're lucky you never experienced the 8000 boxes which were just as sucktacular but also had horrible video downscaling (looked like pixel decimation rather than tap filtered) and were slow as molasses.

I'm now using the Bell ExpressVU box which is miles ahead of the scientific atlanta ones, but it still sucks compared to HD DirectTiVO.

As far as local TIVO guides go, some people have gone to the trouble of setting up linux servers to scrape guide data from other sources (eg. TitanTV) and feed it to their TiVO. I never ran a TiVO at home so don't know the details behind this...
 
Stu -- I haven't looked into running HD TiVo's in Canada. Are you sure it doesn't "Just work" with your subscription? I'd google around, I'm sure other people have tried it.

I recall years ago some guy got it working - but its all unix and I just don't bash-it-up like I used to!

S
 
Back
Top