HSC is going to need A LOT of power.

NetViper · 4 December 2004

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2004/cars/lamborghini/11/gallardo_600/2511.html

I just read C&D got the F430 1/4 mile @ 11.7 @ 123!! (though it was downhill on ferrari's track)

Now the Gallardo is going to have nearly 600HP!!!

Honda will need something more than a V6 to compete in this new era of "entry level" supercars!

NsXMas · 4 December 2004

That's pretty insane. The horsepower wars are underway.

I only need about 400 HP for a light sports car. I don't want the fastest, just the smoothest, most reliable, and balanced sports car

NSXDreamer2 · 4 December 2004

What's new, these duo had fought each other for years and years...

The Creation of the Bull is to take the prancing horse down, when the founder got rejected from a Ferrari dealership...

I'm just not sure when is the horsepower game be ended...

NetViper · 4 December 2004

I am just thinking that Honda said the new NSX will be a "Ferrari-killer".

Do you think they might not have been ready for the F430? It is significantly faster than the 360.

Shumdit · 4 December 2004

Maybe they meant a 308 GTS Killer! :biggrin:

DeNguyen · 4 December 2004

Shumdit said:
Maybe they meant a 308 GTS Killer! :biggrin:

LOL... dont forget the all mighty Mondial!

jgtcnsx · 6 December 2004

they need to make something fast with amazing handling

Shumdit · 6 December 2004

jgtcnsx said:
they need to make something fast with amazing handling

There's a statement that will send the engineers back to the drawing board! :biggrin:

jgtcnsx · 7 December 2004

actually like the type r just a little more power. it is fast but was most respected for its amazing handiling

4AU4LIFE · 8 December 2004

you are assuming that Honda is going to build the HSC.

NetViper · 8 December 2004

92NSX said:
you are assuming that Honda is going to build the HSC.

No, I am pretty sure that the HSC is dead. But, I think the next gen NSX is coming. Someday....

NsXMas · 8 December 2004

NetViper said:
No, I am pretty sure that the HSC is dead. But, I think the next gen NSX is coming. Someday....

You and me both!

NCC-1701D · 8 December 2004

Do you guys think that Honda can build something that can beat the competition but at the same time have a price tag that people are willing to pay for and still make a profit on...

ncdogdoc · 8 December 2004

NCC-1701D said:
Do you guys think that Honda can build something that can beat the competition but at the same time have a price tag that people are willing to pay for and still make a profit on...

NO

Ponyboy · 8 December 2004

NetViper said:
No, I am pretty sure that the HSC is dead. But, I think the next gen NSX is coming. Someday....

I think so as well. And I think that was a good thing too. Over 300hp is perceived as "no more than 350" and unless the HSC was 2100lbs then it just isn't going to be successful. I'd like to see something around 480hp, big brakes, paddle shifted, MR, and 2800lbs. Yeah, I like the sound of that.

NetViper · 8 December 2004

Ponyboy said:
I'd like to see something around 480hp, big brakes, paddle shifted, MR, and 2800lbs. Yeah, I like the sound of that.

Shawn, for once we agree! :biggrin:

I am not sure I am a fan of the paddle shifters yet. When I was in the 360CS, the shifts were violent on the track. Really jerked your head around.

I think besides high HP we also need big TQ. At least 350lbs.

I don't care if it is a v6, i-4, v10, 12 16, two hamsters running on wheels under the hood..... we just need POWER.

KGP · 8 December 2004

Santa: Please send Dave two hamsters for christmas. He will know what they're for :biggrin:

2slow2speed · 8 December 2004

Hmm.. I keep thinking about all of these posts about more power more torque, etc.

If the new NSX does come out with more power 400+ it's probably going to need a very good Traction Control/Honda Save Me Please system to be able to keep the car going straight on launches or even during spirited driving for most of the buyers.

Just look at the torque monsters out there, E55's, M5's, etc, without their respective traction control systems these cars are almost impossible to launch without getting all squirly and going sideways.

I would rather have a car that is not as fast in the pure 0-60 times, 1/4 miles times and faster at a rolling starts, that will make all that power useable. And keep it about the same weight as the current NSX in order to help in braking as well as lateral grip.

Useable/balanced power is the key. Having to have traction control enabled will take away from the experience.

Just my 2 cents.

Ken

BTW: Both the Gallardo and the Murcielago can put down more power because the cars are AWD, don't want that on the next gen NSX either.

Ponyboy · 8 December 2004

NetViper said:
Shawn, for once we agree! :biggrin:

I am not sure I am a fan of the paddle shifters yet. When I was in the 360CS, the shifts were violent on the track. Really jerked your head around.

I think besides high HP we also need big TQ. At least 350lbs.

I don't care if it is a v6, i-4, v10, 12 16, two hamsters running on wheels under the hood..... we just need POWER.

Haha...well, it was bound to happen eventually. But I acutally do like the paddle shifters. If the shifts are violent on an upshfit then that's fine but if it's on the downshift then maybe not. I dunno - haven't been in a SMG or paddle shifted car on track.

NetViper · 8 December 2004

Ponyboy said:
Haha...well, it was bound to happen eventually. But I acutally do like the paddle shifters. If the shifts are violent on an upshfit then that's fine but if it's on the downshift then maybe not. I dunno - haven't been in a SMG or paddle shifted car on track.

Downshifts were good. Upshifts were killer!

HSC is going to need A LOT of power.

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