Hennessey Venom GT (Yikes!)

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On paper it seems that it will be an amazing concept car :eek:

HENNESSEY VENOM GT

For Immediate Release

HENNESSEY VENOM GT
Concept Car

1000 BHP + 2700 lb Mid-Engine Chassis = New Benchmark of Sports Car Performance


HOUSTON, TEXAS (November 20, 2007) - Hennessey Performance Engineering today announced that it is introducing the company's first concept car - The Venom GT.

Penned by British auto designer, Steve Everitt, the Venom GT would incorporate Hennessey's potent Venom 1000 Twin Turbo Viper V10 powerplant into a light weight mid-engine chassis weighing "under 2,700 lbs". Power would be run through a 6-speed transmission or optional sequential gearbox.

With a power to weight ratio of just 2.7 lbs per bhp Hennessey estimates that the Venom GT could attain 0 to 100 km/h times in less than 2.5 sec. and a 0-300 km/h time of around 14 seconds. Company founder, John Hennessey, is careful to point out that the Venom GT is not being built as a 'Veyron Slayer'. Hennessey point out, saying, 'The Veyron is an ultra fast and ultra luxurious grand touring car which also happens to be quicker and faster than any other road car, except for our Venom 1000 Twin Turbo SRT which beat the Veyron earlier this year from 0-200 mph. The Venom GT will be a much more engaging sports car to drive by challenging the driver with 1000+ HP in a chassis that is nearly 1500 lbs lighter than the Veyron.'

Hennessey said, 'The company already has existing Venom 1000 Twin Turbo clients interested in ordering the lighter, mid-engined Venom GT. "Right now are taking a serious look at building 2 concept cars that could be shown to the public sometime in 2009. If there is enough demand we may consider doing a very limited production run of the Venom GT.'

If the Venom GT goes into production, it would be built at the company's facility at Lonestar Motorsports Park which is located just west of Houston, Texas.

About Hennessey Performance Engineering
Hennessey Performance Engineering (HPE) specializes in designing, testing, manufacturing and selling high-performance parts and services for the Dodge Viper SRT10, Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8, Chrysler 300C SRT8 and Dodge Magnum SRT8 as well as other high performance and exotic brands such as Bentley, AMG Mercedes and Porsche. HPE is completing the construction of the company's new 30,000 square foot engineering and manufacturing facility at the company's Lonestar Motorosports Park - a 1/4 mile dragstrip located 45 minutes west of Houston, Texas. HPE is the only aftermarket tuning firm in North America that owns and operates its own vehicle testing track / proving grounds. The company will move to its new facility at the end of 2007.

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FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT:

John Hennessey
EMAIL: [email protected]
TEL: 713-828-7676
www.HennesseyPerformance.com
www.LonestarMotorsportsPark.com
www.TunerSchool.com

Concept picture can be found here: http://www.hennesseyperformance.com...MOL&DoThis=Hennessey+Venom+GT&ActionReq=Where
 
Concept looks good but, ick gad, that's too much power for 99.9999999% of it's targeted audience. It's going to need a lot of electronic gadgetry and aero work to keep it on the road. Not to mention a judious use of the throttle.

But I guess what "they" say is true, it's never enough power. Good find, Ken!
 
He Did NSXs in the early 90s Re: Hennessey Venom GT (Yikes!)

Concept looks good but, ick gad, that's too much power for 99.9999999% of it's targeted audience. It's going to need a lot of electronic gadgetry and aero work to keep it on the road. Not to mention a judious use of the throttle.

But I guess what "they" say is true, it's never enough power. Good find, Ken!
I've got one.
 
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soooo its a LOTUS front half, carrera GT back half, and a VIPER engine... :confused:

and then called something really fancy:confused:

:tongue:
 
With enough downforce and a way to manage boost levels it'll probably be mildly driveable. I like the fact it's using a proven drivetrain the parts are probably relatively cheap and durable.
 
Wasn't Hennessey they guy that would take Vipers to work on them, and actually not work on them? In fact he would start stripping customer's cars to complete other customer's cars.
 
Whats sick about this is that they moved there 25000+sf facility to the track i go to , they just picked up and moved it to the track bad A$$:tongue: :biggrin:
 
This car is vapourware. It will never be built, and anyone putting money down on one will regret it.

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Hennessey's Vipers are fast, but lawsuits say he serves them up too slowly. (Photo by Mark Vaughn)
Ninety-eight percent of his customers love him, John Hennessey says. But a few hate him and some have sued. Hennessey Motorsports in Houston specializes in tuning Vipers, adding more power to what is already one of the most powerful cars in the world. Hennessey’s Vipers have been featured in this and many other magazines and the cars he has sent to us and to other media were impressive performers. Hennessey presents himself well, projecting an image of the consummate Texas good ol’ boy whose reassuring conversational style and howyewdoin’ demeanor put customers at ease. People believe they will get what he says he’ll give them. But not all people do.

According to a lawsuit filed in Salt Lake City, Utah resident Taig Stewart sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey last May for an engine upgrade to 1100 hp along with several other modifications. For that he wire-transferred $142,500 to Hennessey. The lawsuit states the parties agreed the car would be done by mid-July 2001. As of press time the car was still sitting under a tarp in Hennessey’s shop in Houston. Or most of the car, anyway. Stewart’s suit claims Hennessey sold the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood. The suit seeks return of the money, the Viper and “no less than $1 million” in punitive damages.

Hennessey claims he’s just slow in getting the work done.

“My side of the story is we’re planning on finishing his car and planning on giving him everything that he paid for,” said Hennessey. As for the parts being sold, “That’s totally false. We’ve got all his parts in the shop except the hood and he wanted to do a lightweight hood.”

Stewart is not the first unsatisfied customer. The longer we dug the more dissatisfaction we found. Here’s a sampling:

On Nov. 14 a New Jersey court entered a final judgement of $133,674 against Hennessey on behalf of Viper owner Gary Dan for a botched conversion.

William Walters said he is out over $22,000 after shipping his Corvette to Hennessey for a head and cam package that was never done; he did have five rods bent and a head gasket damaged on the dyno in Hennessey’s shop during an experiment Hennessey tried with nitrous oxide.

Jerry Johnson said he had to file suit in Placer County Court in California to straighten out registration and engine computer problems on a Viper he bought from Hennessey. n Jon Belinkie said he loves the changes made to his Viper but had to sue in his home state of Maryland, then register the judgement in Texas, to recover overcharges Hennessey made on his American Express card.

Rick Ryan said he had to hound Hennessey for eight months by long distance from Marietta, Georgia, to put the proper wing and stripes on his Viper.

Mark Lublin said he sent his Viper cylinder heads to Hennessey for new valves but when the heads came back he found the “new” valves were actually used; a cam that was delivered to Lublin in a Hennessey box turned out to be a stock Chrysler cam. Lublin was finally refunded $5,715 from American Express but only after nine months of disputing the charge; and he got no money from Hennessey.

Bruce Iannatuono said he ordered $8,500 worth of Hennessey parts for his mechanic in Baltimore to install but was only able to use two-thirds of what was shipped, and then only after haranguing Hennessey for six months on an order that was originally promised in five weeks.

Most of the complaints come from outside Texas. Hennessey, some said, tends to take better care of local customers.

“If you were out of state, man you were fair game,” said Kyle Kent, a former employee at Hennessey Motorsports. When an out-of-state car came in it was sometimes parted out, with the wheels, tires and whatever else looked good going to other cars waiting to be finished or sold outright, according to Kent and others inside Hennessey Motorsports. Then Hennessey would call the car’s owner and try to sell him an upgraded kit. If the customer balked, Hennessey would take parts from other cars in the shop, or just let the job sit.

Kent described one typical disassembly on an out-of-state Viper. “The motor and transmission went into a Durango John was putting together, the brakes went to someone else, the hood went to a guy in Ohio, the rear bumper to South Carolina, man you name it. We had multiple cars like that.”

Another common practice was putting stock parts on what was supposed to be an upgraded car.

“One customer spent $130,000 to $140,000 and that guy thought he had purchased a Venom 650R package which he thought came with the stroker motor,” Kent said. “John told him he was getting a stroker. He was just getting heads and cams.”

Hennessey denies any wrongdoing.

“I’ve got probably 3000 customers,” he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a delivery problem with and I’ve had some of them who have sued me. So is that some sort of a trend or is that par for the course?”

here's the link from autoweek:

http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?...t_code=04383484
 
This car is vapourware. It will never be built, and anyone putting money down on one will regret it.

---------
Hennessey's Vipers are fast, but lawsuits say he serves them up too slowly. (Photo by Mark Vaughn)
Ninety-eight percent of his customers love him, John Hennessey says. But a few hate him and some have sued. Hennessey Motorsports in Houston specializes in tuning Vipers, adding more power to what is already one of the most powerful cars in the world. Hennessey’s Vipers have been featured in this and many other magazines and the cars he has sent to us and to other media were impressive performers. Hennessey presents himself well, projecting an image of the consummate Texas good ol’ boy whose reassuring conversational style and howyewdoin’ demeanor put customers at ease. People believe they will get what he says he’ll give them. But not all people do.

According to a lawsuit filed in Salt Lake City, Utah resident Taig Stewart sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey last May for an engine upgrade to 1100 hp along with several other modifications. For that he wire-transferred $142,500 to Hennessey. The lawsuit states the parties agreed the car would be done by mid-July 2001. As of press time the car was still sitting under a tarp in Hennessey’s shop in Houston. Or most of the car, anyway. Stewart’s suit claims Hennessey sold the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood. The suit seeks return of the money, the Viper and “no less than $1 million” in punitive damages.

Hennessey claims he’s just slow in getting the work done.

“My side of the story is we’re planning on finishing his car and planning on giving him everything that he paid for,” said Hennessey. As for the parts being sold, “That’s totally false. We’ve got all his parts in the shop except the hood and he wanted to do a lightweight hood.”

Stewart is not the first unsatisfied customer. The longer we dug the more dissatisfaction we found. Here’s a sampling:

On Nov. 14 a New Jersey court entered a final judgement of $133,674 against Hennessey on behalf of Viper owner Gary Dan for a botched conversion.

William Walters said he is out over $22,000 after shipping his Corvette to Hennessey for a head and cam package that was never done; he did have five rods bent and a head gasket damaged on the dyno in Hennessey’s shop during an experiment Hennessey tried with nitrous oxide.

Jerry Johnson said he had to file suit in Placer County Court in California to straighten out registration and engine computer problems on a Viper he bought from Hennessey. n Jon Belinkie said he loves the changes made to his Viper but had to sue in his home state of Maryland, then register the judgement in Texas, to recover overcharges Hennessey made on his American Express card.

Rick Ryan said he had to hound Hennessey for eight months by long distance from Marietta, Georgia, to put the proper wing and stripes on his Viper.

Mark Lublin said he sent his Viper cylinder heads to Hennessey for new valves but when the heads came back he found the “new” valves were actually used; a cam that was delivered to Lublin in a Hennessey box turned out to be a stock Chrysler cam. Lublin was finally refunded $5,715 from American Express but only after nine months of disputing the charge; and he got no money from Hennessey.

Bruce Iannatuono said he ordered $8,500 worth of Hennessey parts for his mechanic in Baltimore to install but was only able to use two-thirds of what was shipped, and then only after haranguing Hennessey for six months on an order that was originally promised in five weeks.

Most of the complaints come from outside Texas. Hennessey, some said, tends to take better care of local customers.

“If you were out of state, man you were fair game,” said Kyle Kent, a former employee at Hennessey Motorsports. When an out-of-state car came in it was sometimes parted out, with the wheels, tires and whatever else looked good going to other cars waiting to be finished or sold outright, according to Kent and others inside Hennessey Motorsports. Then Hennessey would call the car’s owner and try to sell him an upgraded kit. If the customer balked, Hennessey would take parts from other cars in the shop, or just let the job sit.

Kent described one typical disassembly on an out-of-state Viper. “The motor and transmission went into a Durango John was putting together, the brakes went to someone else, the hood went to a guy in Ohio, the rear bumper to South Carolina, man you name it. We had multiple cars like that.”

Another common practice was putting stock parts on what was supposed to be an upgraded car.

“One customer spent $130,000 to $140,000 and that guy thought he had purchased a Venom 650R package which he thought came with the stroker motor,” Kent said. “John told him he was getting a stroker. He was just getting heads and cams.”

Hennessey denies any wrongdoing.

“I’ve got probably 3000 customers,” he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a delivery problem with and I’ve had some of them who have sued me. So is that some sort of a trend or is that par for the course?”

here's the link from autoweek:

http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?...t_code=04383484

Based on what I've read Hennsessey is a crook who basically extorts money from his wealthy clients who have money to burn. He takes years to finish some cars and has asked for hundreds of thousands more than originally quoted to finish jobs. He also "borrows" parts from other cars without permission. His rationalizations of his wrongdoings are legendary as can be seen in that forum post by Ponyboy.

Of course he treats local customers better--those are the ones who could find him and beat him up and sit there and watch him actually do the work to make sure it gets done on a timely basis.

Mechanics like Hennessey should not be sued. I find it extremely hard to believe that just about every customer of his that has sued him wouldn't have been willing to work out a solution with John before resorting to those measures. If you have a problem with him you're basically SOL. I would not give a dollar to this guy or leave my vehicle with him under any circumstances.

FWIW he is an extremely talented mechanic/builder.
 
This is why I never buy into the hype just because a name brand gets lots of exposure. But alas lots of people with money to throw around either dont have the time or are just too lazy to do any research about the business they are about to wire funds too. Easy come, easy go. Buyer beware.

Im not even a Viper or a Vette guy, I have seen Hennessey cars in magazines and shows over the years and all the people give them rave reviews. BUT ... I have also been able to find out about issues with the business, hence I took those so called rave reviews with a grain of salt. So for those people to be crazy enough to wire over $100k to a total stranger...dunno...I feel sorry for their loss...but at the same time...they should have known better, because I have this strange feeling they only went with Hennessey based on the media hype and because they had money in their pockets. Just because the guy seems cool doesn't mean his business practices are.
 
This is why I never buy into the hype just because a name brand gets lots of exposure. But alas lots of people with money to throw around either dont have the time or are just too lazy to do any research about the business they are about to wire funds too. Easy come, easy go. Buyer beware.

Im not even a Viper or a Vette guy, I have seen Hennessey cars in magazines and shows over the years and all the people give them rave reviews. BUT ... I have also been able to find out about issues with the business, hence I took those so called rave reviews with a grain of salt. So for those people to be crazy enough to wire over $100k to a total stranger...dunno...I feel sorry for their loss...but at the same time...they should have known better, because I have this strange feeling they only went with Hennessey based on the media hype and because they had money in their pockets. Just because the guy seems cool doesn't mean his business practices are.

Well put.

Why do you think all these celebrities get awful-looking plastic surgeries? Do you think they do the research? Talk to people? Of course not! They go to the most expensive, hyped doctors that they hear about in their little celebrity insulated world. The "new" doctor in town who can work miracles...:rolleyes:

People with lots of money to burn rarely worry about things like research, credentials and integrity. They simply get obsessed with the notion of the "best" product possible and Hennessey, in this case, makes them, no doubt--so that's where they go. Reputation is everything--perceived or real.


Anyone who takes their Viper to him obviously has other cars to drive and can live without it for awhile. Also, people with money often have the attitude that more money can solve just about any problem which is what Hennessey preys on. Sending an extra $20K every couple months is nothing to them and they figure it's only money. Most of these people probably don't even care what the initial quote is--kind of an "if you have to ask..." type deal. And unlike most mechanics, the vast majority of his clientele don't live nearby allowing him to get away with his shenanigans unmonitored.

John Hennessey has made a killing with his combination of extreme mechanical talent, lack of business ethics and extortion of wealthy fools. And since he's really the only game in town it will keep happening. :frown:

There is no doubt he is a fantastic mechanical talent and the cars he does finish are showstoppers. I'm sure there are many positive reviews but IMO it's just not worth it. It's like borrowing money from a loan shark to go to Vegas. You might win big but you could lose even worse...:cool:
 
Based on what I've read Hennsessey is a crook who basically extorts money from his wealthy clients who have money to burn. He takes years to finish some cars and has asked for hundreds of thousands more than originally quoted to finish jobs. He also "borrows" parts from other cars without permission. His rationalizations of his wrongdoings are legendary as can be seen in that forum post by Ponyboy.

Of course he treats local customers better--those are the ones who could find him and beat him up and sit there and watch him actually do the work to make sure it gets done on a timely basis.

Mechanics like Hennessey should not be sued. I find it extremely hard to believe that just about every customer of his that has sued him wouldn't have been willing to work out a solution with John before resorting to those measures. If you have a problem with him you're basically SOL. I would not give a dollar to this guy or leave my vehicle with him under any circumstances.

FWIW he is an extremely talented mechanic/builder.


Spot on.

Factor in wealthy clients with expensive cars with little mechanical understanding- interested in a 150K FI job on a 50K car? Shit... mine as well have a big red X on their foreheads and a sign that reads "jerk me off and take me for all I am worth". Doctors and such Ripe for the plucking. Who hasn't owned an expensive car and been there.

My experience is that the world of motor-sports is be-rift of selfish opportunistic individuals and criminals that put ethics on the back burner, and will blow as much smoke up your ass as it takes to get into your wallet. Every car community has its fair share of trash.

In fact I feel it has become very pervasive, not the exception anymore. Do the bare minimum and try to keep things quiet. Take 1/10 and no one will notice. Quote 1/2 of what you really intend to charge. Make promise and later break it. Over commit and under deliver. Take on jobs you can't deliver on. Swap parts around without the customer knowing. Take the money and don't ship the part. Draw things out indefinitely. I've heard it all and then some.

Service situations can be that much worse. Take three cars (Civic, Porsche, Enzo) in for a roll cage, paint job, alignment, oil change, turbo, detail, whatever... everything else being equal... unless you are in some rare upstanding saintly hands it is no question who will leave with the 3X higher labor bill. Leave a mis-behaved dog off-leash and it will get away with as much as it can every time.

The problem isn't that people dont' do their research, it's that they don't understand that their best interests are flat out always not high priority. For a lot of shops the only car that matters is their own personal cars for example.

I would take our members warnings seriously. More likely than not, behind those numbers... I would guess that for every guy that sued him was five more that just went away quietly short changed and very pissed off.

My best guess is that John H. falls on what I think of the Coop, MB, side of the rope. Piss Poor CRM skills but five lawsuits later doesn't acknowledge it... because he's spent all of his time stroking his ego and convincing himself that he is always in the right, all the time, every time. Or who knows, maybe he is just down right dirty. Lots of those too. Whatever.

Let me tell you all something. Here's the only fact that I see that counts. 150K FI Job. The customer IS ALWAYS RIGHT. Those kind of customers are paying for first class service and results, period. If he couldn't deliver it he shouldn't have taken the money. It is the owners responsobility to ensure positive CRM situations, not the customers.

Uggh... over the years it has come to sadden me to see how many shady individuals lurk, back and back again to take a newbie reasonable paying car enthusiast that just doesn't know any better for a quick buck any way they can get. The only thing that ever changes are the victims stories. I'll show you some stuff in the Miata community that will make your stomach wrench because often those guys don't have a collection of other cars to drive. :frown:

I say screw this drawn out civil BS, BBB, and other crap they use to hide behind / to their advantage.

Jail time with no possibility of ever again owning/operating a public business is exactly where I think guys like him deserve to be. In this day and age dig 'em the state frog will give you a free business license as long as you pay the fee... they will always look the other way.

It's ashame the bar to do and maintain a business license has been set just that low.
 
Spot on.

Factor in wealthy clients with expensive cars with little mechanical understanding- interested in a 150K FI job on a 50K car? Shit... mine as well have a big red X on their foreheads and a sign that reads "jerk me off and take me for all I am worth". Doctors and such Ripe for the plucking. Who hasn't owned an expensive car and been there.

My experience is that the world of motor-sports is be-rift of selfish opportunistic individuals and criminals that put ethics on the back burner, and will blow as much smoke up your ass as it takes to get into your wallet. Every car community has its fair share of trash.

In fact I feel it has become very pervasive, not the exception anymore. Do the bare minimum and try to keep things quiet. Take 1/10 and no one will notice. Quote 1/2 of what you really intend to charge. Make promise and later break it. Over commit and under deliver. Take on jobs you can't deliver on. Swap parts around without the customer knowing. Take the money and don't ship the part. Draw things out indefinitely. I've heard it all and then some.

Service situations can be that much worse. Take three cars (Civic, Porsche, Enzo) in for a roll cage, paint job, alignment, oil change, turbo, detail, whatever... everything else being equal... unless you are in some rare upstanding saintly hands it is no question who will leave with the 3X higher labor bill. Leave a mis-behaved dog off-leash and it will get away with as much as it can every time.

The problem isn't that people dont' do their research, it's that they don't understand that their best interests are flat out always not high priority. For a lot of shops the only car that matters is their own personal cars for example.

I would take our members warnings seriously. More likely than not, behind those numbers... I would guess that for every guy that sued him was five more that just went away quietly short changed and very pissed off.

My best guess is that John H. falls on what I think of the Coop, MB, side of the rope. Piss Poor CRM skills but five lawsuits later doesn't acknowledge it... because he's spent all of his time stroking his ego and convincing himself that he is always in the right, all the time, every time. Or who knows, maybe he is just down right dirty. Lots of those too. Whatever.

Let me tell you all something. Here's the only fact that I see that counts. 150K FI Job. The customer IS ALWAYS RIGHT. Those kind of customers are paying for first class service and results, period. If he couldn't deliver it he shouldn't have taken the money. It is the owners responsobility to ensure positive CRM situations, not the customers.

Uggh... over the years it has come to sadden me to see how many shady individuals lurk, back and back again to take a newbie reasonable paying car enthusiast that just doesn't know any better for a quick buck any way they can get. The only thing that ever changes are the victims stories. I'll show you some stuff in the Miata community that will make your stomach wrench because often those guys don't have a collection of other cars to drive. :frown:

I say screw this drawn out civil BS, BBB, and other crap they use to hide behind / to their advantage.

Jail time with no possibility of ever again owning/operating a public business is exactly where I think guys like him deserve to be. In this day and age dig 'em the state frog will give you a free business license as long as you pay the fee... they will always look the other way.

It's ashame the bar to do and maintain a business license has been set just that low.

I bought a Hennessey NSX Stage IV (2nd owner). The 1st owner had kind things to say about Hennessey and my personal contact with him was fine!

I will admit that MY dyno sheets "suggest" optimistic HP claims...BUT I know that different (brand) dyno's on different days/conditions lead to different results.

For all the bad internet press, he sure seems successful.

I guess its like Wal-Mart (and porn)...everybody condemns them but somebody is making them trillion $ businesses.
 
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