Help with brakes please!

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I have read almost everything there is at bleeding the brake system on my 91.
I had removed my calipers for stripping and re-painting. When doing this, my reservoir ran dry.
I have a hand vacuum and I have already pulled about a quart of brake fluid through the system. Only 1 caliper seems to bite down, the rest do nothing, and I cannot seem to get all the air bubbles out.
I have even tried to bleed them per the service manual with a second person but nothing comes out, not even air. Is there something I am missing here? Does the reservoir need to be pressurized? I have been at this for hours and throwing in the towel for today.
 
When I removed my calipers I don't recall my reservoir ran dry - though it makes sense it should have.
(I am not making a comment only an observation)
I know some may disagree but I used speedbleeders - no vacuum pump - and just pumped and pumped.
Are you following the correct order for bleeding (sorry for asking ...) right rear, left rear, then right front, then left-front
(mostly copied from the wiki - maybe the manual is the best source).
I don't think I used a quart for my job.
 
When I removed my calipers I don't recall my reservoir ran dry - though it makes sense it should have.
(I am not making a comment only an observation)
I know some may disagree but I used speedbleeders - no vacuum pump - and just pumped and pumped.
Are you following the correct order for bleeding (sorry for asking ...) right rear, left rear, then right front, then left-front
(mostly copied from the wiki - maybe the manual is the best source).
I don't think I used a quart for my job.
For reference, I had the calipers off for over a week. Also, yes I am using the specific caliper bleeding sequence. When I bleed the calipers, I get fluid, but it's a bubbly fluid and not constant. I have even cracked the bleeder and pumped the hell out of the brakes, fluid only trickles out. Although, the peddle does not go to the floor so maybe is I am getting all the air out. I might have to buy the speed bleeders.
 
Are you following the correct order for bleeding (sorry for asking ...) right rear, left rear, then right front, then left-front

The right rear and front left front share a common circuit as do the left rear and right front.
The correct sequence is right rear, then left front, then left rear, and lastly right front.
Page 19-10 of the manual.
The order in the Wiki is wrong.
 
You do not need to pressurize the reservoir or close it. Just be sure it never comes empty. After 10-15 pressions on the pedal for each caliper, all the air should be out and 1 liter enough for the job. If air is still coming with fluid after 15 pressions on the pedal, that mean that air is sucked somewhere when you pull the pedal back to you (one of the bleeding screw not tight, bad master cylinder, leak somewhere, ...).
 
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If the reservoir ran dry, you'll need to a bench bleed of the master cylinder before trying to bleed the lines and calipers. Otherwise you may never get all of the air out of the system.

A bench bleed can be accomplished with the master cylinder still in the car if you fab up a few extra fittings and lines. In fact, I find it easier to do that way.
 
The right rear and front left front share a common circuit as do the left rear and right front.
The correct sequence is right rear, then left front, then left rear, and lastly right front.
Page 19-10 of the manual.
The order in the Wiki is wrong.
Really? Well maybe that is why it does not work.

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If the reservoir ran dry, you'll need to a bench bleed of the master cylinder before trying to bleed the lines and calipers. Otherwise you may never get all of the air out of the system.

A bench bleed can be accomplished with the master cylinder still in the car if you fab up a few extra fittings and lines. In fact, I find it easier to do that way.
How do you bench bleed the system?
 
The right rear and front left front share a common circuit as do the left rear and right front.
The correct sequence is right rear, then left front, then left rear, and lastly right front.
Page 19-10 of the manual.
The order in the Wiki is wrong.
Jim,
'Thanks for your help. I followed your bleeding sequence and all is good! I was finally able to fit my new wheels on and go for a drive. They really should update the wiki. Also, I think I was opening my bleeders just a hair too much.

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Sorry for bad advice on order.
No worries at all man, I was going off the wiki info as well. Thanks for your replies and making an effort to help!

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The funny thing is,
I will probably do this all over again soon. I was not happy with the finish of the G2 caliper paint kit. So, I am gonna redo it with a spray on type. Just not too soon!
 
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