having problems heel toeing

[llf51]

In my crx, I am able to heel toe like no other. In the nsx I cant heel toe to save my life. It seems that the gas pedal seems to sit way lower than the brakes. Is there any way I can move the gas pedal more towards me?

If this makes any differnce, my shoe size is 7.5

 

[EK]

http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Accessories/pedals.htm

I use a RAZO gas pedal only.

 

[NSXDreamer2]

there's some adjustment for the pedals you can play around, but for heel and toe, I had driven 3-4 different nsx with different clutches and different pads, I don't have much problem after I drove it for couple blocks.

I would say it's most likely a getting used to problem. Give it some time, you will get used to it. (The thicker and more grabiness (sp?) of your pad material will also affect your heel and toe timing.) Also clutch engagment point will affect that too.

However, nsx is one of the easier car to heel /toeing... you could also try to practice heel and toe at higher speed. (That means a little more time spent on brake pedal, don't forget heel and toe is really a drive-fast technique that mostly used on race track)

 

[dquarasr2]

I've never had problems with most cars, but I did with my Mazda 6s and I did with my NSX, about which I was a little surprised.

With the NSX I could almost reach, but not reliably. So I did what is suggested above, and what I had already done on my Mazda. Momo pedals.

Problem solved. (I have to warn people that I let drive the NSX as the area between the gas and brake pedals now is a little tight, but I like it that way.)

 

[NSXGMS]

I have these: http://www.autovation.net/

Heel-toe is no problemo w/ these. Note the extended lower portion of the gas pedal.

 

[llf51]

Thanks for the advice. I guess I just need to get some pedals. I basically heel/toe all the time when I downshift. I guess it's habit forming because on my crx the map sensor is busted so if idle sometime kills the engine while I'm driving.

When I heel toe, I keep my revs up and my car on.

 

[Factor X Motorsports]

We use the Autovation set-up and they work great!

 

[Hrant]

I find solace in watching videos of professional drivers driving NSX-R. If you observe their heel/toe, you will notice that they too have the same problem when compared to the "normal heel and toe" driving.

In a stock NSX, most drivers will have their heel resting to the left of the gas pedal and using the gas pedal at an angle of about 45-60 degrees from the floor. This is in part due to the small pocket in the flooring that rests one's heel away from a perfect line-up with the gas pedal. Once you foot is resting there, it is almost impossible to do the heel and toe by the normal rotation on your heel. Look at the videos, they all lift their right foot and then press the brake pedal at a 45 degree from the floor and then use the heel to blip the gas pedal.

I too have the Autovation pedals, but haven't installed them yet ......... too many other projects. Perhaps they will address the issue above but my guess is their functionality comes from reducing the spacing between the pedals and not the need to lift the heel. YMMV.

 

[W]

I just step on both pedals.

 

[nsx2tall]

The Autovation pedals plus Diadora racing shoes made all the difference. :biggrin: NOW, I can heel toe do-si-do at every stop light... yay

 

[Scin]

I believe you can adjust the brake pedal height. This can make a big difference. I also have the autovation pedals, the added area on the gas pedal really makes it easy to find.

 

[PKim]

Razo pedals + Piloti shoes. :smile:

 

[TURBO2GO]

I am definitely having some difficulty in this car. I thought it was just me. I guess I should install my SOS pedals. I tell you I have changed my wardrobe since buying this car. Now all the time people ask me about my dress slacks and my "weird" shoes.

I go to work in driving shoes. It looks crazy but I am making a statement. :tongue:

 

[latzke]

I find solace in watching videos of professional drivers driving NSX-R. If you observe their heel/toe, you will notice that they too have the same problem when compared to the "normal heel and toe" driving.

In a stock NSX, most drivers will have their heel resting to the left of the gas pedal and using the gas pedal at an angle of about 45-60 degrees from the floor. This is in part due to the small pocket in the flooring that rests one's heel away from a perfect line-up with the gas pedal. Once you foot is resting there, it is almost impossible to do the heel and toe by the normal rotation on your heel. Look at the videos, they all lift their right foot and then press the brake pedal at a 45 degree from the floor and then use the heel to blip the gas pedal.

If this method is not the "normal" method, I'm at a loss for what "normal" is. Anyone want to enlighten me?

I have never had an issue heel-toing in the NSX, and I have pretty grippy brake pads (one of the Hawk "race" compounds...whichever one RM Racing used to sell as 'race only') so I don't think it's because I'm able to mash on some low-torque pads and have a lower brake pedal. Hrant's description of the method is perfect. I wonder if people are trying to heel-toe when not braking very hard (or maybe not braking any more), and so they're trying with the brake pedal too far out (although, I've heel-toed while braking fairly lightly for track driving and still had no problem).