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Yeah I get the whole harness/roof collapse issue, I am not trying to rehash that. So that's the reason for avoiding a sub belt attached to the seat? I seriously doubt that strapped into a 4 point your body will "slide under" to save your neck on B Pillar collapse. I think if that B collapses, it is taking your head with it.So there is no other reason why attaching a sub belt to a seat is "dangerous"?Do you guys just sit with the harness belts under you on the street and use the lap belt or do you put them behind the seat?The main reason I am doing this is I really feel the need to have a neck restraint device more than anything. Plus I just am not that fond of a 3 point anywhere. I think there is a huge "convenience" factor into a 3 point belt... but if you watch any crash videos they just kind of suck. The body is flying all over the place. Arms flailing, legs flying... belt giving and giving... in comparison anything with a 4 point plus seems pretty well controlled. I too, like Bob feel I prefer to have a harness/helmet/HNR than to have a 3 point because of rollover worry. I am just trying to decide if I should get a 4 point or a 6. I use the dali type cushion with the cutout already.
Yeah I get the whole harness/roof collapse issue, I am not trying to rehash that. So that's the reason for avoiding a sub belt attached to the seat? I seriously doubt that strapped into a 4 point your body will "slide under" to save your neck on B Pillar collapse. I think if that B collapses, it is taking your head with it.
So there is no other reason why attaching a sub belt to a seat is "dangerous"?
Do you guys just sit with the harness belts under you on the street and use the lap belt or do you put them behind the seat?
The main reason I am doing this is I really feel the need to have a neck restraint device more than anything. Plus I just am not that fond of a 3 point anywhere. I think there is a huge "convenience" factor into a 3 point belt... but if you watch any crash videos they just kind of suck. The body is flying all over the place. Arms flailing, legs flying... belt giving and giving... in comparison anything with a 4 point plus seems pretty well controlled. I too, like Bob feel I prefer to have a harness/helmet/HNR than to have a 3 point because of rollover worry. I am just trying to decide if I should get a 4 point or a 6. I use the dali type cushion with the cutout already.
