Getting off the line!

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I was driving with my Brother-in-law, he was in his Vette Z06, me in my 97 NSX (stock). He was consistently getting off the line quicker. I don't think itis his car, I think he has more drving experience. Can anyone describe in relatively good detail, how to work the clutch and gas the best to get off the line. What kind of RPM's should I be around when the clutch comes out? How quick do I release the clutch?
 
As fast as a 97 NSX is, I think a Vette Z06 will beat an NSX in 0-60 almost always. The NSX 0-60 is probably about 4.7-5.0 seconds, while the Z06 is probably 4.0-4.5 seconds, depending on the year the Z06 is. COrrect me if Im wrong....

But, ask your brother in law to race you on a straight, then a sharp corner, THEN we'll see who beats who.

[This message has been edited by Redeye (edited 19 February 2002).]
 
Torque and traction is what gets you off the line, and the Z06 has plenty more of it
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David Allen
'00 Silverstone NSX-T
Comptech SC, Headers, Intake, Exhaust & a little Mark Basch tweakage
 
Originally posted by Redeye:


But, ask your brother in law to race you on a straight, then a sharp corner, THEN we'll see who beats who.

[This message has been edited by Redeye (edited 19 February 2002).]


I wouldn't ask him that. It is no secret that a Z06 will outperform the NSX in nearly every category. The Z06 was made with one purpose in mind - to go fast! And it does it in all areas of performance. Take a look at the latest road and track and you can see for yourself.

Still, I would rather have an NSX over Z06 anyday.


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NetViper -= 100% Stock EBP 2000 Civic Si =- Still looking to get an NSX, but at least I can live life at 8,000 RPM!
 
Originally posted by NetViper:
Take a look at the latest road and track and you can see for yourself.

They tested three different cars (NSX-T, 996, and Z06) on a damp road course using three drivers (experienced, but with varying levels of experience). With laps taking roughly two minutes, the lap times of the Z06 were quicker than the NSX by 1.0, 1.5, and 4.0 seconds among the three drivers. So the Z06 is quicker... but those differences are surprisingly small, given the horsepower differences between the cars. And the NSX required slightly less braking distance from 60 mph than the Z06.

[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 19 February 2002).]
 
The Japanese Drivers in Bm video's typically rev the engine to between 3500-4000rpm's.
Hold, and then dump the clutch to get a little bit of wheelspin 0.5 second or so, and then flat floor it after you gain traction.

Warming up your rear tires before drag racing might help you a little (a small burnout).
Softening the rear shocks, and disconnecting the rear sway bars also help from what I understand.

A full tank of fuel also might help you get a little more traction, although the extra weight may end up making you slower.
 
appreciate the ino on the Z06, but could someone walk through the clutch work to get this car off the line as quick as possible?

I think ak answered this question by providing the above link to an earlier topic in NSXprime.

One more point - I believe drag racers typically let air out of their tires to increase the size of the contact patch for better traction.
 
Originally posted by nsxtasy:
They tested three different cars (NSX-T, 996, and Z06) on a damp road course...

Damp track, what a waste of time.

As for the Z06 "getting off the line quicker", it's much easier to do with a car that has gobs of low end torque. You can pretty much just let the clutch out at low RPM and feather the throttle to adjust tire spin. You would need far more finesse than he to match him for the first 100 ft or so.
 
Originally posted by sjs:
As for the Z06 "getting off the line quicker", it's much easier to do with a car that has gobs of low end torque. You can pretty much just let the clutch out at low RPM and feather the throttle to adjust tire spin. You would need far more finesse than he to match him for the first 100 ft or so.

Then why does the NSX accelerate faster than the Z06 at slower speeds?

According to the article, here are the times for the NSX and the Z06, respectively:

0- 20 mph: 1.0 1.3
0- 40 mph: 2.7 2.8
0- 60 mph: 5.0 4.7
0- 80 mph: 8.0 7.4
0-100 mph: 12.0 10.8
 
Originally posted by nsxtasy:
Then why does the NSX accelerate faster than the Z06 at slower speeds?

According to the article, here are the times for the NSX and the Z06, respectively:

0- 20 mph: 1.0 1.3
0- 40 mph: 2.7 2.8
0- 60 mph: 5.0 4.7
0- 80 mph: 8.0 7.4
0-100 mph: 12.0 10.8

According to that article, the NSX would actually beat the Z06 off the line...
 
Originally posted by nsxtasy:
Then why does the NSX accelerate faster than the Z06 at slower speeds?

According to the article, here are the times for the NSX and the Z06, respectively:

0- 20 mph: 1.0 1.3
0- 40 mph: 2.7 2.8
0- 60 mph: 5.0 4.7
0- 80 mph: 8.0 7.4
0-100 mph: 12.0 10.8

Damp track? Or, perhaps the rear weight bias increasing traction. Or perhaps their drivers have the finesse of which I spoke and enough runs to get it right. Probably some of each.

I'd bet that on a dry road and typical drives, the Z06 beats the NSX in the first 100 feet. Borrow one of each and I'll put some money on it.
 
Originally posted by sjs:
Damp track? Or, perhaps the rear weight bias increasing traction. Or perhaps their drivers have the finesse of which I spoke and enough runs to get it right. Probably some of each.

I'd bet that on a dry road and typical drives, the Z06 beats the NSX in the first 100 feet. Borrow one of each and I'll put some money on it.


Actually, the acceleration tests were done on dry roads. They do mention however that the times are not inline with their "regular times" because of a different testing facility. This is funny cause the NSX seems inline with most mags, but the Z06 is really slow compared to the 4.0 times some other mags get.

Ken.. the NSX sure did come close to the Z06 when driven by Millen. I wonder how close it would have been on a dry track??

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NetViper -= 100% Stock EBP 2000 Civic Si =- Still looking to get an NSX, but at least I can live life at 8,000 RPM!
 
Millen and the enthusiast driver guy both did fine in the NSX in the wet. It was Mitani (the club racer) that had the trouble and spun out (hurting the NSX's over-all average lap time)...

When you think about it, it makes sense. Millen is awesome, so control was never a problem and the Z06 beat the NSX by a fairly slim margin as a result of it's better balance on the wet track and superior power. The enthusiast guy kept each car at about "8 10ths" and found the easy drivability of the NSX (up to 8 10ths) helped him on the track. He had the hardest time with the Porsche and picked the NSX since it seemed the easiest to drive to him.

Mitani, on the other hand, is a club racer and so felt confident trying to push the car to its absolute limits. Not having the experience of Millen, he lost the NSX due to its reduced balance in the wet, kept the Z06 on target because it really is very well balanced and did ok in the Porsche because (I think) he has lots of Porsche experience
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Originally posted by spookyp:

Mitani, on the other hand, is a club racer and so felt confident trying to push the car to its absolute limits. )

Didn't Mitani once own an NSX? I remeber it was someone at R&T. I thought it was him.

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NetViper -= 100% Stock EBP 2000 Civic Si =- Still looking to get an NSX, but at least I can live life at 8,000 RPM!
 
Heh, maybe... I was joking about the Porsche thing... Trying to think of a reason he had so much trouble with the NSX and no trouble with the Porsche. The less experienced driver seemed to have lots of trouble with the P-car in the wet...
 
Hey Chuck,

Rather then worrying about primitive drag car techniques, how about concerning yourself on how to drive the NSX the way it was engineered to do so, in the corners? If you prefer a straight line, get a Camaro SS.

Just my $0.04 worth.

Corner Hard!

-Nader
 
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