First time at the track

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Just had a new driveway installed and learned that my contractor has a track only 911 and is a certified track instructor. He has invited me to go with him to Willow Springs next week and bring along my '98 for some track time.

It's my first time at this, and would appreciate any information, tips, advice as to putting my NSX on the track. What do I need to do to prepare? What can I expect. He said he will be in the car with me.

Thanks in advance folks!:p
 
Lucky you!! Although I don't track my X, there are a lot of people that do -- both those that occassionally track it, while using their X's as off-track drivers, as well as some that have dedicated track cars. I'm sure you will find a lot of good posts to your question in short order. Have you tried searching the archives?

Be sure to post after your experience.

Regards.
 
Thanks guys. I did go through the FAQ's but there wasn't a great deal of information there.

This guy is really cool. He writes for the Porche racing magazine as well as campaingns his own car.

Will certainly let everyone know how it turns out. It seems asif it will be a great experience.

Thanks again.

Doug
 
All I have to say is thank you God! Someone with an NSX is actually taking their car to the track. Out of 8000 in the US, I think maybe 7 actually make it to a road course. :( Good for you!

I'd say since this is your first time, just make sure everything on your car is working well. Make sure you have plenty of brake pads and your brake fluid has been changed recently. I'm not sure if Willow is hard on your brakes though. It may be a good idea - cuz you're going to do it later - to change out your brake fluid for Motul or Ate Super Blue. The big thing is to go there with an open mind and above all have fun. You're going to get taught a lot of stuff so don't make it a competitive thing. Just have fun.

As your progress though, and I'm sure you will, you'll want to upgrade (IMO in order) your brakes - pads, lines, fluid, your tires, your suspension, and your engine. But the BIG differentator is the driver. So get your training young Skywalker...and have fun.

PS- where did all the OT guys go?
 
LOTS of us track our NSXs. As for your preparations: Snell 95 or newer helmet, water, good mechanicals like brakes, fluids, tires, tire gague, etc. You will want to remove extraneous items from the car like the spare, tools, mats, glove box items.

And expect to have a lot of fun.
 
Thanks for the information guys. Sounds like I am in for a BLAST!
 
The first time at the track is like the first time doing anything and there will be a big learning curve. There is very little transfer from driving a car well on the street to driving well on the track. Don’t be disappointed if learning “the line” is difficult or mysterious at first or if you don’t quite know which corner you are on and which way the next one goes. It’s not about being a good or bad driver, its all about seat time and it takes just that to get the hang of driving around a track. Some people learn quickly and some take more seat time, nobody cares how fast you learn and everyone is there to have fun!

Don’t be afraid to go slowly at first and concentrate on understanding the flags, passing rules and courtesy. Keep an eye on your rearview mirror and allow faster traffic to pass smoothly and safely, even if it means lifting off the accelerator. A good rule of thumb is if there is a car in your review view and you didn’t just pass it, then it’s faster and let it go by (even if it is a slower make car like a BMW 2002, Neon or M3). Try to keep your distance from vehicles in front of you so you can concentrate on the line instead of their bumper.

Make life easy on your instructor by driving within your limits and as smooth as possible. Learning the line is the most important, followed by corner entry and exit speed (early throttle application) and lastly braking. Save the super-hard late braking for some other time (without a passenger) as it has very little effect on lap time other then to make it worse, trash your brakes, and make your instructor puke.

Take a ride with your instructor sometime in the morning so you get a chance to see how it’s really done—pay attention to how scary fast he goes in certain parts and how surprisingly slow he goes in others. There will be slow corners on the track which have to be taken slowly or the car will fall off the track—everyone takes them slowly, even Mario Andretti. Conversely, there will be corners or kinks that can be taken at speeds that will make your hair stand up, build you speed up in these parts purposefully and incrementally. Peter Cunningham once said that beginning drivers tend to go way too fast in the slow parts and way too slow in the fast parts. It’s one of my favorite quotes.

If you’re there to have fun, learn and hang out with a bunch of car nuts and not worried about lap times and if you get passed by the chick in the Neon, then you’ll have a blast and leave wanting more!

Good luck and tell us how it goes,

DanO
 
I think you are going to have a load of fun on the track.
Last weekend I attended my very first NSX-Trophy race at the Sachsenring in Germany. Started last and finished last ;)
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15842

As people posted before me, it's a learning experience. Although I have been on the track before a couple of times, good instruction is worth an awful lot in my experience. At the moment, just about everybody is going faster than I am but I don't really care. I am having fun, am learning to drive at my OWN limits and try especially to learn the car's behaviour. As well as keeping the car in one piece as well of course.
Becoming a good track driver takes time.
 
other suggestions...

If u have some mates/the wife going with you to watch, a trackside video camera is a nice way to remember your first run.

and no matter what, DON'T FORGET A CAMERA... coz we want to see pix of you wearing a BIG grin. :D

above all, have fun.
 
Track addiction

Let us know how you like it. Bet you'll be hooked.

Keep in mind we'll have 2 days of driving/instruction at Infineon Raceway (legendary Sears Point) at NSXPO in October. (Can't believe I beat Hrant to the punch on this one)

FYI: I haven't driven Willow Springs but I understand it's got some very high speed sections. It is probably somewhat different from the other major tracks in CA (Laguna, Buttonwillow, Sears and Thunderhill)
 
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Hi Dtrigg

Like everybody has said use the day as a learning curve, you will learn more about your car in one day and become a better driver for it:)

Go out with the instructor 1st and learn the lines to take.
You are there to enjoy yourself so don't worry about people passing you.

I am copying a link to a track called Cadwell in the UK I did it recently in my NSX:D

http://www.monsterevo.co.uk/Trackdays/Cadwell MLR/My NSX1 Cadwell.wmv

Enjoy

Dale
NSX 1
 
Your first time out there you're gonna feel like "ouch ... that's hard on the car ..." But it's designed for it!

Take an air pressure guage and keep an eye on the tire pressures - they will go up ... and up depending on how hard you go.
Have lots of fun. ;)
 
Perhaps it's me, but it seems that I am getting more responses from "Non-US" NSX owners regrding tracking their vehicle. If most go to the U.S. it seems strange, or that U.S. owners just don't reply.

Hay, Welsh Dragon, I owned my first NSX (black on black with the number plate 1NSX - which is worth thousands of pounds) when I lived in Scotland. I was told that there were only 400 in the UK and only 14 in Scotland. I purchased mine in England and had it trucked up to Scotland. When I was going to return to the U.S. I thought I would never sell it. I put an ad in the Sunday London Times and was swamped with calls. People told me they would buy it over the phone and would fly up with the cash the next day!

The guy that bought it came over and looked at it, said he would buy it and gave me a bunch of cash. I asked if he wanted to drive it, and he said no! I took him for a drive myself. I sold it for 1,200 pounds more than I purchased it for, and drove it for a year and a half.

Hope you have the same success!

All the best.
 
Hi Dtrigg

What part of Scotland did you live?
The NSX is such a wonderful car; I sold my EVO V that I had spent 23k on in mods it left me as a 420bhp Monster:cool:
I was going to keep it but decided to buy a proper race car..

http://http://www.monsterevo.co.uk/Eurocar/Eurocar.JPG

The NSX when I bought it I told everybody I was not going to mod it or Track it no wonder they all smiled at me:D
The car has had added Mugen front and rear spoiler + Bilstein suspension to improve the handling, MoMo Steering wheel and then I got the chance to buy NSX 1 plate and had to have it:cool:

As you say the plates are still worth good prices in the UK and the cars are holding there value well, the nice thing is they are so rare I see dozens of Porsches and a lot more Ferrari than NSX.
We recently had a Honda R meet at Gaydon and had 7 NSX there.
On the 26th April we are having a NSX meet at Donnington I am looking forward to it.
This Friday should be fun I am doing a Track day briefing video at Oulton Park we are using my NSX 1 and the new Evo 8 .

Good Luck and enjoy your trackday's:) Once you do one I guarantee you will do a few more:D

Dale
NSX 1
 
im anxious to track mine as well. I think i'll really enjoy it, and that is really the primary reason i bought the car. I've always wanted to do this, and i opted for the nsx over a motorcycle for this very reason. a guy who had a vintage porsche which he raced is the person who put the idea in my head. he clued me in that it wasnt as expensive as i thought.

what part of scotland are you from? my mother's maiden name is armstrong(border ruffians--i know :rolleyes: ) Im considering a trip soon.
 
Yeah, I noticed the same thing. Where did all the OT guys go? Several years ago, they were everywhere. One of the reasons I decided to track my NSX was because of the OT community here was active, alive, and helpful. There may be alot of people who track their NSX's in the US but for some reason they aren't responding to "track" related questions like they used to. Well, no worry, there are still several of us out here and more than happy to help.

Good luck with your first track event and let us know how it went.
 
Hey Shawn-

I guess im one of those ex-Hallett OT guys (used to live in Dallas). I moved to So. Cal a couple of years ago, where OT is a HUGE deal! You would not believe the scene out here! There is an event here every weekend just about, and we have 3 nice tracks within 2 hours driving time!! Not everyone who goes is into the internet, so you will meet many more people once you start getting involved.

For Dtrigg, and the others in this neck of the woods, here is the best webpage listing OT events around here:

http://members.cox.net/trackdays/page1.shtml
 
Dude, I know! I'm jealous. I did almost the exact opposite - moving from Arroyo Grande CA to Tulsa OK. I think if I did live in Cali again, I'd be poor from all the track events I'd go to.

What ever happened to Vaughn D. and Doug C? I don't see them on here at all anymore. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any other NSX's, in force, at Hallett since you guys came up. There's been MAYBE 2, besides me, since. And that time you came up was my first track event too. Fun times.
 
Vaughn is still around. He’s running a BBSC and still goes to TWS mostly I believe. He is getting pretty hardcore from what I hear. I think he got the fastest lap at this past NSXPO at MSR. Doug sold his NSX the year I moved away and now runs a 993 Carrera. He is active in the P-car club and tracks it quite often with his brother from Austin who owns a tricked out 930.

I’d love the chance to run Hallett again one of these days. Remember this?:

http://www.nsxhelp.com/amnsxlit/hallett0301/index.html

I really enjoyed that track and it’s technical nature – a real challenge. If you ever get a chance to make it out here to So. Cal., drop me a line!

Marc
 
Haha...man, I've got those vids saved on my PC at home. I remember it well. Here's one for your library:

3-29-03 Hallett

I think Vaughn has a natural weight advantage so maybe that's why he's so quick. ;) I'll definitely drop you a line when I'm in Cali, you do the same if you're ever out here.

I'll be at Mid-Ohio this coming weekend, I'll be sure to post some vids and pics.
 
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