Fire Extinguisher Recomendations?

[latzke]

I haven't been to a HPDE in about 4 years. It seems like it's become more common for fire extinguishers to be required (I'm encountering this requirement for the first time this year). Any recommendations on specific fire extinguishers?

The HPDE I'm planning for at this time requires an extinguisher with a minimum rating of 10BC.

Discussion of types (halotron 1 vs. carbon dioxide vs. dry chemical vs. purple k, etc) is welcome/fine, but in the end I am looking for a pointer to specific models appropriate for this use for sale at specific stores/sites at a reasonable price (link straight to item is a bonus).

Thanks.

 

[john@johnhudakracing]

I haven't been to a HPDE in about 4 years. It seems like it's become more common for fire extinguishers to be required (I'm encountering this requirement for the first time this year). Any recommendations on specific fire extinguishers?

The HPDE I'm planning for at this time requires an extinguisher with a minimum rating of 10BC.

Discussion of types (halotron 1 vs. carbon dioxide vs. dry chemical vs. purple k, etc) is welcome/fine, but in the end I am looking for a pointer to specific models appropriate for this use for sale at specific stores/sites at a reasonable price (link straight to item is a bonus).

Thanks.

I know the owner of safe drives, great to work with and very responsive with my orders. Check them out. The have 2A-10B:C rated units from Amerex which are popular with many enthusiasts meeting the club requirements while being relatively cost effective. I'd reccomend a minimum of a 5lb and even higher is better. If you want to go higher end SafeCraft and Safety Systems both have good offerings as well.

http://www.safedrives.com/products.asp?cat=32

 

[coolnsx]

I bought the passenger floor mount bracket from Dali and installed a dry chem unit. Fits so well I leave it in 24/7, doesn't seem to be a problem for the passengers foot room IMO

 

[TyraNSX]

Useth the search

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?p=384339#post384339

Apparently dry chemical = BADNESS!

 

[92 white 0650]

Re: AFFF

Aqueous Film Forming Foam (AFFF) is popular around our racing paddock. Advantages include availability, shippability, and for some systems, at-the-track re-fillability.

 

[latzke]

Useth the search

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?p=384339#post384339

Apparently dry chemical = BADNESS!

I searched the "track talk" section using several different search terms...and found nothing. Thanks for the link.

 

[latzke]

The forum TyraNSX linked to eventually would lead me to the same place DaliRacing links to from their extinguisher mount description. There I found These two extinguishers that are both (1) halon and (2) have the required rating (10BC). The first (and cheaper) one of those is $230. I found the same one for $154 at another place.

Dry Chemical / Purple K extinguishers are still a ton cheaper (in the $25-50 range), but given the damage they can cause it's nice to find a halon unit for a more-reasonable price.

 

[TyraNSX]

I have no idea if this place is any good, but here's another source
http://www.h3r.com/products/home_vehicle.htm

 

[92 white 0650]

Re: Places that are good

A couple of sources for hand-held track car extinguishers.

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/advcat.asp?CategoryID=FIRESYSTEMS

http://www.bimmerworld.com/html/spa-afff-handheld.htm

http://www.subesports.com/products/cat/Fire+Extinguishers/brand/SPA/prodID/1571

http://www.ioportracing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=IPRS&Category_Code=FES

General information
http://www.ioportracing.com/faq/fire.htm

My suggestion would be to buy from race shops who know what you want and can help with practical installation tips, etc.

 

[latzke]

Interesting... Doing some more searching I realized that a lot of people were using 2.5lb or 3lb halon extinguishers and that Dali Racing Recommends the RT A1200, which is a 2.6lb halon extinguisher. Halon extinguishers of this size are 5BC, which doesn't meet the requirements of the track event I'm to attend (10BC). I found this odd as I expect most track events to have similar minimum requirements.

So, I started looking around for some racing regulations that might serve as a low-water-mark for this sort of thing. I came across the 2006 SCCA Club Racing General Rules (warning large PDF) which state the following...

17.22.2. Hand-Held Fire Extinguisher Requirements
The following are acceptable for Showroom Stock, Touring and Improved Touring cars:

• A. Halon 1301 or 1211, two (2) pound minimum capacity by weight.
  
  
• B. Dry chemical, two (2) pound minimum with a positive indicator showing charge. Chemical: 10 BC Underwriters Laboratory rating, potassium bicarbonate (Purple K) recommended, 1A10BC Underwriters Laboratory rating multipurpose, ammonium phosphate and barium sulfate or Monnex.

It's interesting to me that they effectively require halon extinguishers rated 5BC (or higher) or dry chemical extinguishers rated 10BC (or higher).

 

[RacerX-21]

Latzke,

The brand that IO port sells is the only brand I know that has an option for multiple manual pull triggers. The electric ones can support multiple, but I don’t recommend them. Here’s a picture showing the detail that went into the external safety controls on our NSX’s, we put this on both sides of the cars. (Corner workers have complimented us on this feature). The third component in this picture is an external port for data acquisition.

 

[latzke]

RacerX-21,

I'm a little disoriented. What is the location of the control panel in that picture?

 

[RacerX-21]

RacerX-21,

I'm a little disoriented. What is the location of the controls in that picture?

Hows this-