Driver side window rolls up VERY slow...

[NSX-GT]

It is on my '91 NSX... Ever since I got it, I noticed the drivers side window(I don't know about the passenger side, I compared the driver's side to the passenger side window, and it rolls up much slower) rolls up very slow...

I see that many of you buy the "window fix-its" from Dali or SOS... Do I need these? Or is my window already broken?

 

[FuryNSX]

I have similar symptoms on my 95. Any help/info on this would be immensely appreciated.

 

[Larry Bastanza]

Slow windows indicate the need to have them lubed. In addition, unlubed windows lead to broken window regulators, (pre 1993 models, Acura fixed it by 1993) which the "thingies" with prevent.

Please understand that is the regulator breaks, due to strain, from lack of lubrication, or just a lot of use, it could cost you BIG TIME (again pre 1993). A few hundred each vs. $15/both. So have the windows lubed, check for the thingies, if not installed, get that done at the same time.

Go here: http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Troubleshooting/windows.htm to get the complete scoop

HTH,
LarryB

 

[nsxbuilder]

Do what I do - Get a vise grip and cover the pinchers with a little duct tape, when you start rolling it up, grab it and give it a good tug! Works like a champ!

Well, not actually...

It's not broken - yet. Your window rails are in need of lubrication. The door needs to come apart to do this, so adding the window fixit thingies ($15) makes perfect sense to avaid the possibility of the factory plastic pieces breaking in the future.

It's a pain taking the door apart, so bring it to the dealer if you don't want to attempt it.

-ed
www.nsxbuilder.com

 

[91nsxbaby]

Need new Regulator

i had that problem also.. last yrs i have to put a New1 on the driver side. and this yrs i just put on the Passenger... it not Cheap..

 

[nsxtasy]

Re: Need new Regulator

i had that problem also.. last yrs i have to put a New1 on the driver side. and this yrs i just put on the Passenger... it not Cheap..

So you didn't learn your lesson when you had to replace the one on the driver's side? By installing the fix-it thingies, you could have avoided buying a new regulator - at least for the passenger side...

 

[Juice]

So let me get this strait. If I buy the fix it thingies, AND lube the rails, then the windows WILL move fine? Or could the regulator still be shot at this point?

P.S. This needs moved to the tech. forums!

 

[Acuraphile]

Yes, this should be in the Tech/DIY forum. Yes, your windows should move smoothly after lubrication and thingy installation, and, yes, they should go along fine until they need another lube job. Also, check the FAQ for the diy/window thingy instructions.

Regards,

Bill

 

[NSXER119]

I had Hilltop (one of the best NSX mechanics) install the fix-it thingie and lubricate the channel in my 92 few months ago...but the driver side window still kinda slow. Don the mechanic told me that sometimes the channel doesn't work too well in the early model. If I want to have the window go up faster, I have to spend a few hundred dollars. However, I decided to leave it like that because Don told me as long as I have the fix-it thingie, the window regulator won't break.
I think it a good idea to install the thingie asap

 

[4AU4LIFE]

Re: Re: Need new Regulator

So you didn't learn your lesson when you had to replace the one on the driver's side? By installing the fix-it thingies, you could have avoided buying a new regulator - at least for the passenger side...

LMAO, that is too funny.
As easy as it is to pull the door panel off and look at the regulators, everybody that isn't sure about their car should do it.

 

[NSX-GT]

Thanks for your info-filled replies everyone! I will definately order the window fix-it thingys and have the dealer lube the window things next checkup!

 

[mc-ca]

I am also a new owner of a '91 NSX and my passenger window just broke due to the regulator problem! I thought that the previous owner put in the fix. The bill to fix one side is $800! the part alone is over $500. I have a "fix-it thingy" on the way to prevent another $800.

 

[yo]

So you didn't learn your lesson when you had to replace the one on the driver's side? By installing the fix-it thingies, you could have avoided buying a new regulator - at least for the passenger side...

I decided to leave it like that because Don told me as long as I have the fix-it thingie, the window regulator won't break.

I have a "fix-it thingy" on the way to prevent another $800.

sorry everyone, but the 'thingies' aren't a sure thing. When i bought my NSX i immediately installed the 'window thingies', lubed the track, etc. It did solve the problem for awhile. One day the window stopped rolling up past a certain point. the regulator was shot, and a new one had to be installed.

i will say with the new regulator assembly, the window works better than i have ever seen. the window is also tighter preventing any air leak at high speeds.

-ryan

 

[surgeon]

From Jason:

Do we need this dali racing window "fix-it thingy" for 93 on NSX? I am kinda confused, at first I thought we dont need it for 93 on, but I think the troubleshooting section stated that some 93's might need it.

Recently, I did notice that my driver side window is a little slower and noiser compare to passengerside. Should I get Dali window fix-it thingy? Or, should I just lube it?



Steve
Posting for a friend.

 

[nsxtasy]

The bill to fix one side is $800! the part alone is over $500.

That sounds a bit on the high side.

Originally posted by yo
sorry everyone, but the 'thingies' aren't a sure thing. When i bought my NSX i immediately installed the 'window thingies', lubed the track, etc. It did solve the problem for awhile. One day the window stopped rolling up past a certain point. the regulator was shot, and a new one had to be installed.

The "thingies" are a sure thing to prevent the most common problem with the '91-93 regulators as originally designed - namely, that the metal tabs that hold the plastic clip, through which the cable runs, break. However, it's possible (but much less likely) that other problems with the regulator parts (such as the motor) can develop, causing it to fail; this is true of any model year, and the thingies won't help prevent other problems. The key, in any case, is to keep the mechanisms well lubricated, and to install the thingies if you still have the old-style regulators.

For an illustration of the differences between the regulators, see the FAQ here.

Originally posted by surgeon
Do we need this dali racing window "fix-it thingy" for 93 on NSX? I am kinda confused, at first I thought we dont need it for 93 on, but I think the troubleshooting section stated that some 93's might need it.

According to the TSB (number 93-004), the '93 model year is affected, as well as '91-92. It's possible that they upgraded the regulators partway through the '93 model year, so that some '93 cars have the new style regulators, while others don't. But the only way to be sure for any particular '93 NSX is to open the door panels to check. Which you will want to do anyway, to lubricate the mechanisms.

Originally posted by surgeon
Recently, I did notice that my driver side window is a little slower and noiser compare to passengerside. Should I get Dali window fix-it thingy? Or, should I just lube it?

I would suggest buying a pair of the window fix-it thingies ($16), so that you have them on hand when you open up the door panel to lube it. If you have the old style regulator, you can install the thingies at that time (in which case, I would recommend doing the same thing on the driver's side). If it turns out you have the new style regulator, at worst you are only out $16, and you can probably re-sell them on NSXprime pretty easily.

 

[Larry Bastanza]

I did not know it may have been partial in 1993. I only recall LarryG opening up his 1993 and the new regulators were there .

Oh, In regard to the FAQ, please see my post. It's already there!

Thanks,
LarryB

 

[jlindy]

I don't mean to confuse, but I had the window lubed and relubed with no luck. (It still rolls up fairly slow with some clicking past halfway. I decided to switch out the regulator with a working used one from a 95, so it is the updated regulator. This did nothing. I then had the tracks adjusted with no luck as well. Any help on this or suggestions. It works fine and I am not too worried about it breaking, but would like it to work like it should.

 

[gobble]

I have the same problem on my 92. No solutions for anyone, just have the same problem. Also, my service records indicate that the regulator was replaced in 95. Must be a track problem and not a regulator problem.

 

[91nsxbaby]

everything work out fine.. install everything New from the Dealer.. no more worries...

 

[tosugrad]

Is it easy to lube it myself at home? Just follow the steps in the FAQ, but where should I lube?

 

[nsx_parts]

There are three tracks to lube One on each side and one in the center. I bought a can of spray lithium grease from Napa to lube the windows. Use the plastic extension to bend the grease into the track. Put the switch on and move the window from full lock to full lock to spread the grease and repeat the process two or three times.

You should see an immedeate difference in lift speed. Check to be sure if you have the window fix when the window is in the middle position. There is a TSB on this process, look on this website.

Use puckey (ask your local stereo installer) to reseal the plastic sheet to the door frame.

I do this every time my Bose speakers stop working (About once a week) (Just Kidding).

 

[nsx_parts]

Jlindy:

When was the last time you did a load test on your battery.

A quick test:

Turn on the heater full blast and try the window. Did it slow down? If so, do a load check on the battery. Components in the NSX do not last long with low voltage.

 

[brahtw8]

I did not know it may have been partial in 1993. I only recall LarryG opening up his 1993 and the new regulators were there .

I have a 1993 with a driver's side window alignment issue. It rolls up quickly enough, but it does not go all the way up at first. (It looks rolled up from the inside, but there is a small gap between the window and the molding). I have to wait a second, hit the button again, and perhaps a third time for it to go all the way up.

From reading this post I have some concerns that there may also be a regulator issue, as it seems like there is some potential that some 93s have the old regulators. I checked the FAQs and did a search, (yes, forums nazi, I hear you) but even Ken does not seem to have a definitive answer on the 1993s. I believe my car was produced in July of 1993, after the March service bulletin, (although I need to confirm that off the door jamb) and I suppose I should just call John Vasos, but this forum is just so darn convenient . . .

I know the safe thing to do is install the fix-it thingies, but it would be nice to know if it is necessary.

 

[nsxtasy]

From reading this post I have some concerns that there may also be a regulator issue, as it seems like there is some potential that some 93s have the old regulators. I checked the FAQs and did a search, (yes, forums nazi, I hear you) but even Ken does not seem to have a definitive answer on the 1993s. I believe my car was produced in July of 1993, after the March service bulletin, (although I need to confirm that off the door jamb) and I suppose I should just call John Vasos, but this forum is just so darn convenient . . .

I know the safe thing to do is install the fix-it thingies, but it would be nice to know if it is necessary.

The TSB (number 93-004) very clearly states that 1993 cars are included, and does not specify a VIN range after which cars are not included.

I am not saying that there wasn't a point partway through the 1993 model year after which the regulators were revised; there probably was. However, I am saying that some 1993 cars were almost certainly affected.

If I owned a car produced in July 1993 on which the windows needed adjustment anyway, and I lived someplace other than Wisconsin, I would buy a set of the fix-it thingies, and have them handy when the door panel was opened up for the lubrication and adjustment which it obviously needs. The worst thing that can happen by doing so is that you're out $16 for the fix-it thingies, and you can probably recoup that by selling them on NSXprime.

However, if I owned a car produced in July 1993 on which the windows needed adjustment anyway, but I lived in Wisconsin, I would ask John Vasos whether he keeps a set of the fix-it thingies in stock at the dealership; he very well may. And if he has them anyway, I would have his folks do the lubrication and adjustment, and have them put in the thingies if it needs it. In which case, you're not even out the $16 unless it turns out you need them.

Is that a definitive enough answer for you?

 

[tosugrad]

I think I will have John lube mine next time I am in, unless any Chicago owners want to help me with the process. Anyone? Beuler?

I already have the fix it thingies. All I have is a slow window.