Different perspective of the new NSX

Basically similar to the other reviews except he doesn't dwell on the shortcomings. From the ones I viewed (probably about 5-6) everyone is pretty much unanimous that the thing takes off like a rocket; brakes exceptionally and linearly; handles very well with the right tires with the exception of the numb steering; and is very comfortable to drive with a great view forward. Downsides are: weight; numb steering; crummy Conti tires; small trunk; no place to store phone; uninspiring infotainment system. I haven't heard anyone yet comment about rearward vision which I would expect to be worse than Gen 1 with the flying buttresses.
 
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The videos I've seen of in car makes the rearward visibility look similar to that of my SW20 90s MR2 with a flying buttress - which is not as good as the first gen NSX, but better than most hatchback sports cars of today.
 
Basically similar to the other reviews except he doesn't dwell on the shortcomings. From the ones I viewed (probably about 5-6) everyone is pretty much unanimous that the thing takes off like a rocket; brakes exceptionally and linearly; handles very well with the right tires with the exception of the numb steering; and is very comfortable to drive with a great view forward. Downsides are: weight; numb steering; crummy Conti tires; small trunk; no place to store phone; uninspiring infotainment system. I haven't heard anyone yet comment about rearward vision which I would expect to be worse than Gen 1 with the flying buttresses.

Most of his complaints are really trivial (but I guess that's you're point)....

Conti tires - Non issue since sticky Michelin summer tires are a factory option

Small truck - It appears only slightly smaller than the original NSX. Plus a real trunk is a far more convenient than the the front storage compartment that nearly all the competitors provide.

No place to store phone - What's wrong with storing it in the center console? I assume that's where the USB connector is located anyway, just like most other Honda's. Plus Android Auto requires that you connect your phone to the USB cable anyway. And once you have that working you can do voice controlled text messaging etc right from your car's screen. So why would you even need to see your phone while driving? Hiding it in the console where the cables are is likely preferable.

uninspiring infotainment system - This is a really shortsighted comment. The system has Android Auto which allows phone apps to draw their content on the car's screen. Thus as your phone upgrades its software, your car screen experiences the updated software too. This is a far better solution than a fancy bespoke infotainment system. All those systems like the new R8's where it shows the maps embedded inside the gauges will eventually look hopelessly obsolete with no way to ever upgrade them.

numb steering - This comment actually bothers me a lot. Although it's interesting that ever since electric steering became the norm many cars have been criticized for numb steering including even brands who had not previously been known for this (e.g. BMW). So I guess I will have to drive it myself before having a strong opinion.
 
Don't mean compare cars, but on the just released 2017 Porsche GT3RS.... car was a finished product.

Reviewers unanimously approved it was the ultimate German hammer & relative bargain compared to the competition.

Price wise (excluding the ADM's) very similar to what the purported, optioned up NSX is going to cost.....which would you rather have?
 
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Based on the fact their are 1000's of Porsche's for sale at any given moment, I'd take the NSX. Resale will be strong to very strong.


Don't mean compare cars, but on the just released 2017 Porsche GT3RS.... car was a finished product.

Reviewers unanimously approved it was the ultimate German hammer & relative bargain compared to the competition.

Price wise (excluding the ADM's) very similar to what the purported, optioned up NSX is going to cost.....which would you rather have?
 
GT3RS is not so common though.
About the new NSX numbness, that's indeed a huge drawback compared to the visceral driving feel of the 1st gen. So in short that's a numb, heavy and fast car, that will be compared to big Audi's and such rather to real sports cars like the above mentioned GT3. Not nice. The feedback i had when driving my Prelude and now the NSX makes me confident near the limits, i wouldnt risk going near there with a heavy monster with no tactile feedback...
 
GT3RS is an evolution, NSX is a revolution with no measuring stick.

It's six months of delivery, handing it out to journalists was the right move, even more so if they listen to the criticism. It's exactly what Mclaren did with the MP4-12C and then released a load of retrofit updates as well as an improved new model. They were widely congratulated on their lack of arrogance.

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GT3RS is not so common though.
About the new NSX numbness, that's indeed a huge drawback compared to the visceral driving feel of the 1st gen. So in short that's a numb, heavy and fast car, that will be compared to big Audi's and such rather to real sports cars like the above mentioned GT3. Not nice. The feedback i had when driving my Prelude and now the NSX makes me confident near the limits, i wouldnt risk going near there with a heavy monster with no tactile feedback...

No one said it has no tactile feedback. They said it lacked it until the right tyres went on, and that in race mode it was a different beast, so clearly these issues are already not insurmountable. As for a heavy monster, no one describes the GT-R as such, nor the 918.

I think people are comparing apples with oranges. This is meant to be an every day super car. There isn't really a car in that segment as they are generally trying to create something new. It won't feel special like a Mclaren/Ferrari does but it looks special without feeling like such an event to drive.

there are huge downsides to that, especially for the money. The key point is that there are also huge upsides. You aren't afraid to go shopping in it. You don't mind sitting in traffic. You can let your wife drive it (I won't).
 
I agree w/the evolution part of the 991GT3RS.

Article/review in a recent "Excellence" magazine quoted 34 months to develop the car from the existing GT3 model.
 
Based on the fact their are 1000's of Porsche's for sale at any given moment, I'd take the NSX. Resale will be strong to very strong.

Lol you couldnt be more backwards on this statement already... 991 GT3RS' are selling for 50-100k over sticker and unless you were even lucky enuf to be asked to buy one (own a 918 already), and preowned are going for even more. Unless the NSX starts breaking some barriers, its going to depreciate
 
Lol you couldnt be more backwards on this statement already... 991 GT3RS' are selling for 50-100k over sticker and unless you were even lucky enuf to be asked to buy one (own a 918 already), and preowned are going for even more. Unless the NSX starts breaking some barriers, its going to depreciate

I disagree with this. Yes the GT3RS appreciates in value, but it's due to limited availability rather than barrier breaking. As stated above it is evolutionary, it just does what the GT3 does, but slightly faster and is more difficult to purchase. For this reason, it's changing hands at a premium.

The NSX is breaking barriers, it's the first affordable performance hybrid that is actually fast. Production numbers are hugely limited so I'm certain it will change hands at a premium initially. Even the R8 did that and there was nothing special about it at all, it was just unavailable.

Limit supply to well below that of demand and prices will hold. Demand doesn't need to be huge, but at a few hundred cars a year from the factory, I'm sure supply will be sufficiently low.
 
A car with deep race buckets, stiff suspension, and loose strips of fabric for door handles (to save weight) is not competing with the base NSX. Cars like the GT3RS should be compared to the eventual NSX-R model, not the base NSX.

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I disagree with this. Yes the GT3RS appreciates in value, but it's due to limited availability rather than barrier breaking. As stated above it is evolutionary, it just does what the GT3 does, but slightly faster and is more difficult to purchase. For this reason, it's changing hands at a premium.

+1. Video comparing GT3RS to 650S. Who other than a Porsche fanboy would pay so much for a GT3RS when you can get a 650S for the same amount of coin? The GT3RS is similar to a NSX-R in the used car market-- overpriced due to rarity combined with a big enough fan base to propel the prices forward.

 
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