Cunningham on the Next NSX

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Now, before you all get excited, this is from an article in 1999.. but I thought it was intersting.

Taken from SCI, December/january 1999.

According to Cunningham, "The new car is already done, but still some way off. The great thing about Honda is that they don't care how well this car sells. This is their image car, their technology leader, and they are going to continue making it, no matter what".

It sure is some way off... 4 years later.. still no new car.
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I think that statement sums up Acura and the NSX. Think whatever we may about Hyturds, gentlemens agreements on HP, enviromental pc in engine design and re-capture on investment. The truth is Acura needs a standard in a upper valued sports car market. Cunningham is most likley more knowledgeable than us and while that quote is 3 years old someone let him know something was in the works I hope !!
 
The lengths this board will go to in pining away for a new NSX...It's like rain dancing in hopes of creating magical Honda tinted raindrops. Now even three-plus-year-old quotes from GT drivers are fair game, even though three years is very nearly a full product life cycle in Japan.
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On another topic, what guarantee if there even is an "NSX v2.0" do you have that it won't be ugly as sin to you?

The newer sports car designs mostly look like ass to me, I must be getting old. As an example, who here thinks a 360 looks sharper than a 355? Or a 550 is a nicer look than a 512TR? Or an Elise II is better looking than an Esprit V8? Or a Murcielago is nicer than a late model Diablo? Ok, the last one is close as the murc has a great look, but it's hard for me to say that any current sports car looks better than a previous model within the same line. Oh, here's another one: the startlingly good looking 993 911 Turbo S versus a 996 911 GT2.

The young guys designing the sports cars of tomorrow think that older cars like the NSX and 355 and C5 Corvette are the equivalent of cliché-ridden in terms of body style. They admire them to be sure, but wouldn't dare recycle any of their nice visual cues in a future design. To me the older cars are as gorgeous now as they ever were. Another example: 300ZX TT versus the new 350Z.

Anyone get a look at the new C6 Vette this week? The shots are making the rounds over the net currently and they aren't photochopped. It has got to be the ugliest bastard I have ever seen, across all car lines, possibly ever. No joke, it's laugh-out-loud-at-your-monitor-ugly. Far worse than a C4 or C5, and that's saying something because the C4 has aged worse than Mark Hamill. (thanks folks, I'll be here all week).

Another example: The updated NSX front fascia from this year. Yeah I love HID as much as the next guy, but both the front AND the back of the 2002 car are crap to me. Waaaay too much 3000GT/Celica in the front now and the air dam is flat out nasty. The "cliche" pop-up headlights of the original car, which are just soooo gauche now to today's designers are heaven to me. Doesn't get any better than pop-up headlights on a sports car, lol. The 2002 NSX's rear is tolerable, but not improved versus the earlier car.

Of course this example isn't really fair because Honda was on a tight budget with the upgrade to be sure, and it's probably a miracle it looks as good as it does.

But I digress...This is what happens when there's nothing on tv, message board rambling, lol. Feel free to flame away.
 
Where have you seen pix of the C6?

All I've seen are the same old artist conceptions - that weren't done by Chevy.

-Jim

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1991 NSX Blk/Blk Auto #3070 (Sold)
1974 Vette 454 4 spd Wht/Blk
1976 Honda Accord 5 spd, 3 door Blue/Blue
1977 Honda Accord - Custom - Under Construction
1986 Chevy Suburban
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Not to hijak the thread or anything, but pop-up headlights where why I even started looking at NSXs - seriously. I didn't like the corvette's look and there ain't much else out there that looks modern with the pop-up headlights other than the NSX. For me, pop-up headlights means a signficantly reduced lidar profile and to a lesser extent radar profile too. We need more cars designed with stealth technology and the 2002 model ain't it. Now if Honda would just offer a lidar absorbing paint as a factory option...
 
hi off topic.. but where in Boston are you in JerryW

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yeah, im with you all on the popup headlight thing. It generally just looks better, or at least the cars that have them tend to look better.

interesting observations. I think you may be right. I too, am pretty much 'stuck in the eighties'(late eighties) on the car design thing(asthetically that is). The good news is, designs that are proven always recycle eventually. Im sure our upcoming 'roaring twenties' will be emulating some of the eighties styling.
 
as suggested by JerryW, a radar-reflecting paint and design would mean could speed and radars couldn't track your speed!
this would be the ULTIMATE sales pitch.
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back to the issue at heart: a future NSX...


<FONT FACE="Courier New" COLOR="red" SIZE=+2>GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT</FONT>

<FONT SIZE="2" FACE=Arial>(and we've all been waiting a looooong time, so it's gonna be good!)</A>
 
Perhaps I have been converted...

While I love the design of the NSX, and am not happy with (especially the front end treatment) the facelift the NSX got this year, I think many of the car comparisons above were an improvement.

Perhaps I am in the very small minority but I like the 350Z vs. the 300Z, and the 360 vs. the 355, and the Murc vs. Diablo, the new SL500 roadster vs. the old, even the 550 vs. 512TR.

I think, in general, industrial designers are heading in the right direction.

Recent updates I didn't care for:

The new 7 series BMW, Enzo, and whatever the hell Ford is about to do to the Mustang, I didn't think the Mustang could take a step backwards, somehow it looks like they managed.

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Originally posted by MAKO:
who here thinks a 360 looks sharper than a 355?

I do. But I think they're both beautiful cars.

Originally posted by MAKO:
Or an Elise II is better looking than an Esprit V8?

I'll agree with you there that the Esprit is much, much more attractive.

Originally posted by MAKO:
Or a Murcielago is nicer than a late model Diablo?

Again, both are beautiful; I'd be hard pressed to choose one over the other. Kind of like choosing which is nicer looking, between Heidi Klum and Molly Sims.

Originally posted by MAKO:
the startlingly good looking 993 911 Turbo S versus a 996 911 GT2.

Hmmm... choosing between one startingly ugly froglike car and another startingly ugly froglike car. That's a tough one.

Which of these is nicer looking?

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Originally posted by MAKO:
Another example: 300ZX TT versus the new 350Z.

Well, I think the old one is better looking, but it does have an early nineties look to it, somewhat rounded and formless - a "look" for which the original Lexus SC300/400 is probably the stereotypical example.
 
Originally posted by MAKO:

But I digress...This is what happens when there's nothing on tv, message board rambling, lol. Feel free to flame away.

No flames, you stated yourself well and make valid points. Its ok to be skeptical about the future NSX, if any. I for one like a few others are optimistic, dreaming perhaps but history does repeat itself. Its in human nature. Designers, CEO's and markeeting execs are often not much different than any of us in what we/they want to show the competition. We all want something better than the competition or unique in comparison to the standard makes. Nearly every major manufacture has a type of car that is there top-gun and I like the odds that we'll get something.

Oh yeah, your right....i'm bored to death, nothing on TV and its cold outside.
 
Those C6 photos are all bogus. It has been reported on corvetteforum.com that an engineer at BG confirmed that none of the current "spy" shots are accurate and all of them are loosely based on an old design.
 
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