I'm trying to figure out how much I'm being overcharged for some work. I'd appreciate it if people could post on here or e-mail me how much it should cost (and how long it took) to get a clutch and an R&P gear installed.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Clutch & R&P Install
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Oh, this is for 1997 NSX-T if that makes any difference.
-tim
-tim
Clutch replacement generally runs $500-800. I'm not sure how much extra the R&P replacement runs but it shouldn't add all that much if you do it at the same time.
tmeekins,
I think for the 1997 (single plate) $500-800 is VERY low. The newer clutches are very expensive. More like $2200. A friend of mine had it done on his 1997 a few months back. It's the fylwheel that will kill you $$ wise, it cannot be resurfaced.
R & P for that trans (6 speed correct?) will have to be the 4.55 from Comptech at $1895. A few hours labor (3-4) JUST FOR THE R&P.
It you do both these jobs together you will only pay to R & R the trans once, so it is wise to do so.
HTH,
LarryB
I think for the 1997 (single plate) $500-800 is VERY low. The newer clutches are very expensive. More like $2200. A friend of mine had it done on his 1997 a few months back. It's the fylwheel that will kill you $$ wise, it cannot be resurfaced.
R & P for that trans (6 speed correct?) will have to be the 4.55 from Comptech at $1895. A few hours labor (3-4) JUST FOR THE R&P.
It you do both these jobs together you will only pay to R & R the trans once, so it is wise to do so.
HTH,
LarryB
Hi Tim, where are you having the service done? FWIW, Comptech has a special going on its products through December (call Bob or Shad), and Niello offers discounts too .... so between the two you should be getting a pretty good deal now ..... and that's a nice drive this Saturday; stay over on Sunday and join us for the detailing day
12 hours of labor for both should be expected
I think Ken was referring to just the cost of labor in which case he is correct. It takes my mechanic about 4-5 hours MAX for the work and at $75/hour, that's even less than $500. You have to add in the clutch on top of that.
If you are anywhere near Huntington Beach you should consider it. I think NSX Modified still has a clutch special going for $1299 including labor as stated on their site.
I'll be doing my clutch and R&P in the next few weeks and will give a full report on cost and how/what was done afterward.
If you are closer to San Diego, I'm sure Mark Basch would take care of you as well.
If you are anywhere near Huntington Beach you should consider it. I think NSX Modified still has a clutch special going for $1299 including labor as stated on their site.
I'll be doing my clutch and R&P in the next few weeks and will give a full report on cost and how/what was done afterward.
If you are closer to San Diego, I'm sure Mark Basch would take care of you as well.
I think Ken was referring to just the cost of labor in which case he is correct. It takes my mechanic about 4-5 hours MAX for the work and at $75/hour, that's even less than $500. You have to add in the clutch on top of that.
That's correct. The stock clutch will add another $1200-1500 in parts along with the labor bill.
[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 05 December 2001).]
That's correct. The stock clutch will add another $1200-1500 in parts along with the labor bill.
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Thanks. I actually already have the parts so I only want labor costs.
It sounds like the total installation for both parts should run anywhere from $1000 to $1600 total.
My car is already in the shop getting the work done and they've started to quote me some ridiculously high labor costs, so I want to make sure I understand what it should really cost before I talk to them again. Unfortunately I OK'd the estimate thinking that *I* had underestimated what it should cost.
-tim
It sounds like the total installation for both parts should run anywhere from $1000 to $1600 total.
My car is already in the shop getting the work done and they've started to quote me some ridiculously high labor costs, so I want to make sure I understand what it should really cost before I talk to them again. Unfortunately I OK'd the estimate thinking that *I* had underestimated what it should cost.
-tim
Sounds like they are charging you for the same work twice. If they are already in there to do your clutch, doing the R&P should not take much more time. You could have had the WHOLE thing done for $500-600 MAX.
Even if the labor took 10 HOURS, and overestimating at a ridiculous $100/hour, it should still only cost 1K MAX for labor for EVERYTHING.
Unless I am missing something you are about to get ripped off. Labor on a clutch intall can be $800 at the high end. Same for installing gears and/or R&P. That doesn't mean they get to charge you for BOTH. They are already in there doing your clutch, so your gears should only take a little more work (few more hours MAX).
You could have had the whole thing done here in So. Cal. for $500 or less. May have been worth the drive. DAMN! I feel terrible when people get nailed. sorry
Even if the labor took 10 HOURS, and overestimating at a ridiculous $100/hour, it should still only cost 1K MAX for labor for EVERYTHING.
Unless I am missing something you are about to get ripped off. Labor on a clutch intall can be $800 at the high end. Same for installing gears and/or R&P. That doesn't mean they get to charge you for BOTH. They are already in there doing your clutch, so your gears should only take a little more work (few more hours MAX).
You could have had the whole thing done here in So. Cal. for $500 or less. May have been worth the drive. DAMN! I feel terrible when people get nailed. sorry
actually, it's worse...
they've had my car since last wednesday and i just had voice mail that it may not be done until this friday... and, the last estimate they gave me was $3600!!! so, i'm trying to figure out what they're doing, because it doesn't sound right..(obviously) it would have been cheaper (and less time!) to hire a transporter and have the car taken to anyone else.. though there are a few local places that could have done a good job. i tried to be "loyal" and take the car where i get all my work done and they've always treated me well and did good work, but perhaps this job was too much for them. for now i'll withhold all names until i get my car back and get the final bill.
they've had my car since last wednesday and i just had voice mail that it may not be done until this friday... and, the last estimate they gave me was $3600!!! so, i'm trying to figure out what they're doing, because it doesn't sound right..(obviously) it would have been cheaper (and less time!) to hire a transporter and have the car taken to anyone else.. though there are a few local places that could have done a good job. i tried to be "loyal" and take the car where i get all my work done and they've always treated me well and did good work, but perhaps this job was too much for them. for now i'll withhold all names until i get my car back and get the final bill.
Sorry to hear that and good luck. Don't let them overcharge you because it took THEM longer to do the job. It's still only an 8 hour job or so. At $75/hour, that's only $600. Anything over 1K for labor is absurd. For $3600 you can almost buy the Basch Supercharger!
Please don't let them rip you off.
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Please don't let them rip you off.
[This message has been edited by ilya (edited 05 December 2001).]
tim, I am not following. what are you buying (materials), what are the costs of said materials, and what hourly rate are they charging you? I am troubled (as it sounds like you are also) about the $3600.
You should not pay for someone's inability to do something - which is why I hate paying for any service industry function by the hour. Paying by the job rewards the worker for getting something done faster. Hourly work rewards the unethical / unmotivated / incompetent in most (certainly not all) cases.
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You should not pay for someone's inability to do something - which is why I hate paying for any service industry function by the hour. Paying by the job rewards the worker for getting something done faster. Hourly work rewards the unethical / unmotivated / incompetent in most (certainly not all) cases.
[This message has been edited by justin hall (edited 05 December 2001).]
I would never have a clutch job done on my NSX by someone who doesn't do them often. Between the excess labor hours and the chance that something will go wrong, that's just asking for trouble.
I don't mind having routine work on my NSX (brake pads, tires, oil changes) done by my nearby independent mechanic, but for anything complicated - clutch, A/C, valve adjustments, etc - I ONLY take it to my dealer (who does the most NSX work of any of the nine Chicago-area Acura dealers).
I don't mind having routine work on my NSX (brake pads, tires, oil changes) done by my nearby independent mechanic, but for anything complicated - clutch, A/C, valve adjustments, etc - I ONLY take it to my dealer (who does the most NSX work of any of the nine Chicago-area Acura dealers).
This is my dealer doing the work. And it is the NSX certified mechanic doing the work.
If it's an Acura dealer then I would do the following:
Find a way to be there when they open in the morning. Ask the service manager to detail exactly what they have done to the car and what is left. Ask them for the "book" time on that work. (Confirm this later by calling another dealer.)
If the work includes more than the basic installation of your parts, did you give them a blanket authorization without the details of work? Even if you did, you should insist (assuming it's true) that they did not make clear that complications had dramatically increased the price. They should have explained any such problems to you if the work would exceed book figures, not just up the estimate verbally.
If this is as you have represented, please do not let them get away with it. This goes way beyond the kind of minor bill padding that shops do every day, it's pure fraud or incompetence and either way you should not pay.
I'd also be concerned about what they may have screwed up during all this time but are now trying to cover up.
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