Anyone order from Discount Tire Direct?

[NetViper]

I saw they are one of the companies that we get discounts from being a member of NSXCA.

Has anyone ordered from them? What was your experience like?
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/

They have a variety of tires for the rear's.

Hankook Ventus K102 for only 106!

Yokohama AVS ES100, 115? Are these any good?

Kumho Ecsta Supra 712, $117..

Then there are the more expensive tires like:

Yoko AVS Sport, $195.

I have no clue what to get. As I hardly ever track the car, i am wondering if going with the cheaper tires would be ok?

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[fangtl]

I just ordered a set of ES100s, I'll let you know how I feel about them once I have them on. BTW, the latest issue of Grassroots Magazine has a tire test comparing several of the tires you listed. it may be a good idea for you to buy a copy and see what they have to say.

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[NetViper]

Originally posted by fangtl:
BTW, the latest issue of Grassroots Magazine has a tire test comparing several of the tires you listed. it may be a good idea for you to buy a copy and see what they have to say.

I am not sure if i can get that magazine. I will check it out and see.

Thanks

 

[nsxtasy]

Get the sticky OEM tires that were designed specifically for the NSX (and for the specific corners of the NSX). You didn't spend all that money on a high-performance supercar just so that you could degrade that performance in order to save a few bucks by buying mediocre tires, did you? That wouldn't make any sense.

 

[nicholas421]

i just received my tires from them. i didn't realize they offered a discount to us. what is the discount?

 

[NetViper]

Originally posted by nsxtasy:
Get the sticky OEM tires that were designed specifically for the NSX (and for the specific corners of the NSX). You didn't spend all that money on a high-performance supercar just so that you could degrade that performance in order to save a few bucks by buying mediocre tires, did you? That wouldn't make any sense.

What about the Yoko Es100's ken?

 

[nsxtasy]

Originally posted by nicholas421:
i just received my tires from them. i didn't realize they offered a discount to us. what is the discount?

They give us wholesale pricing on any tires that they keep in stock. What does that mean? I don't know; obviously there's no specific percentage discount involved. Check their prices when ordering. I've found that they are often (but not always) less expensive than Tire Rack.

Originally posted by NetViper:
What about the Yoko Es100's ken?

I haven't tried them; they're new to the market, trying to compete (primarily on price, apparently) against the Bridgestone S-03 as a generic (not designed for any particular car) high-performance tire.

The OEM tires will maximize the crisp handling of the NSX. Current Tire Rack prices for the '94-01 sizes: Yokohama A022H $195F/$224R, Bridgestone RE010 $169F/$199R. And worth every penny.

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[NetViper]

Originally posted by nicholas421:
i just received my tires from them. i didn't realize they offered a discount to us. what is the discount?

Here is an example.

The Yoko Es100's are 115 on their site. They will sell them to us for 96. Not bad. I am going to try a set.

 

[Larry Bastanza]

NV,

Remember, you get what you pay for

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I have been down this road with alternate "cheaper" tires. I have been VERY disappointed.

And I DO mean "cheaper" Yoko's, but not the specific ones you mention.

My $.02

LarryB

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[fangtl]

NV, just FYI, the ES100s I ordered are for my 17/18 setup. I currently run OE Yokos on my stock wheels. Definitely reconsider the OE tires if you plan to stick with your stock rims for awhile.

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[Dr.Honda]

Net Viper, are you planning to log some serious tracktime? If so, I'd agree with
Ken and go with the Yoko's. If not, I'd go with the Kumho's, they are better in the wet
as well as considerably cheaper.

 

[Lud]

I strongly recommend you burn through at least one full set of OEM tires at OEM alignment specs before you start changing things.

With tires you generally get what you pay for.

 

[Michigan NSX]

Originally posted by JimK:
Net Viper, are you planning to log some serious tracktime? If so, I'd agree with
Ken and go with the Yoko's. If not, I'd go with the Kumho's, they are better in the wet
as well as considerably cheaper.

Ditto! I have the Kumho Ecsta Supra's on my car and love them, but I doubt I am ever driving 7/10ths let alone 10/10ths.

Originally posted by nsxtasy:
... You didn't spend all that money on a high-performance supercar just so that you could degrade that performance in order to save a few bucks by buying mediocre tires, did you? That wouldn't make any sense.

Ken, here are the reasons (in order of importance to me) that I bought my NSX:

1. Looks
2. Exclusivity
3. Reliability
4. Performance

So I don't feel bad at all saving a few bucks buying non-OEM tires.

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'91 Black/Black

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[NetViper]

The ONLY time I will be doing a track event for the next year is NSXPO. So, I really don't want to spend a pile of money on tires. For 99.9% street driving, I think it makes sense to get something like the kumhos or cheaper yoko's. Am I wrong for thinking that way?

 

[Larry Bastanza]

NV,

Frankly, I noticed the difference MORE on the street!! The only thing to really think about, is if the handling is compomised and you do not like it, you will have the repurchase an OEM set, or live with them until they wear out.

I purchased a set of Yoko AVSi's. In the first five miles I knew it was a mistake. The first set of nice turns I took with the car I said, "Oops, you screwed up!" I used them for only a few 1000 miles and they had to go!!! The sidewalls were softer then the OEM's and the car had to take a "set" into every turn. It sucked!!

Don't get me wrong, there are other very good street tires out there, but they are typically more expensive then the OEM's.

Just my first hand experience.

HTH,
LarryB

 

[mikec]

I see alot of you recommending staying with OEM tires. My car came with Bridgestone RE010's. But I know that Yoko also makes OEM tires. Do you recommend one over the other? If so.. why?

Thanks

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keep the shiny side up
MikeC 01 #46

 

[Peter Mills]

Originally posted by mikec:
I see alot of you recommending staying with OEM tires. My car came with Bridgestone RE010's. But I know that Yoko also makes OEM tires. Do you recommend one over the other? If so.. why?

Thanks

I've been using Bridgestone, Yokohama, Toyos and Kuhmos this year. I use Kuhmo 712's at Watkins Glen, great stick.I use Toyo's at Lime Rock and Summit Point, very happy.On the street I used Bridgestone then switched to Yokohamas. The yokos are too soft and wear very rapidly.As soon as I burn the Michelin Pilot Sports ( track tires last year) I'm going back to Bridgestone.I should buy stock in a tire manufacturer....

 

[NetViper]

Peter,

Do you think I would be fine with the Kumhos then? Like I said, i will do only this track event and then 99% street use after that.

 

[fangtl]

NV,

At least try the OEM A022 or RE010s, if you don't like them you can replace them and sell it to a fellow NSXer for a decent price.

 

[NetViper]

I have the yoko's on now. I think they are fine. But they wear FAST. Besides, they are $225 a peice at tirerack. If I totally hate the Kumho's, I can always replace them.

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[Michigan NSX]

Not only do I really like the Kumhos for street driving but I am getting EXCELLENT wear. I have over 10,000 miles on them and they show little sign of any use. Again, I don't drive my car 10/10ths - mostly the daily commute where my top speed might be 70 mph with no hard braking/cornering. I say try the Kumhos. If you hate them (and I don't think you will) you won't be out very much money.

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'91 Black/Black

 

[Sketch]

Originally posted by Larry Bastanza:
I purchased a set of Yoko AVSi's. In the first five miles I knew it was a mistake. The first set of nice turns I took with the car I said, "Oops, you screwed up!" I used them for only a few 1000 miles and they had to go!!! The sidewalls were softer then the OEM's and the car had to take a "set" into every turn.

Interesting. I had a set of AVSi's on my other car, and it's hard to compare tire differences precisely using two different cars, but I was leaning towards the opposite conclusion.

Also, the 120-treadwear A022H's seem to be wearing much better than the 160-treadwear AVSi's did. Maybe I'm just not driving it hard enough.

I was actually considering getting a set of them for the NSX when the OEM's need replacement, but it seems that the ES100 is replacing the AVSi. I'm a bit skeptical of the handling capabilities of a tire rated at 280 treadwear (ES100), compared to one rated at 160 ...