A/C Blowing hot and cold at the same time?

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HELP. It is hot here in FL and I don't know what is wrong. Just the other day my A/C quit blowing ice and started blowing cool air. The really wierd thing about it is it blow cool thru all the vents except the left side of the center vents. Basically the one that would be pointed at me while I drive. It is blowing out warm air !!! What gives? All other functions work correctly but no cold air anymore.


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92 nsx this is your problem (more than likely)
the central control panel is going/gone bad it is getting mixed signals
on the older nsx's the capaciters start to blow leaking acid on the circuit board. i beleive bad carma has/had the same problem.
you can do one of two options
1. go to the dealer and buy a new cotrol unit the sell both piece you'll only need the back peice unless yours doesn't light up it lists for around $750 and dealers usually stock it as they are all now going bad (time)
2. there is a place in Miami, Fl called reflection electronics who fixed mine they charged $125 shipped and fixed all 16 capciters i don't have their number on me though
hope this helps
 
I have the same problem the car blows warm air on one side and clod on the other, and also the ac only works on high it dosen't blow low or medium only on high do you think its the same problem the 16 capaciters?
 
yes it's all raleated to the same problem wether its all 16 capaciters or 20 or maybe just 3. i'm assuming yours is also a 91' 92' nsx

[This message has been edited by smoore (edited 11 August 2002).]
 
Yes Smoore your wright its a 92, also I live here in Miami you said Reflections is here in Mia do you remember by any chance where its by at least the area or more or less?
 
Originally posted by JGuidry:
Add more freon, I had the exact same problem. Cost me $6.

i don't think you're understanding there problem it's not just blowing warm its blowing cold and warm and mnay times only on high fan mode all realating to the central control unit

i beleive this place is in S. Miami i'm sure if you call infomation they will have the number
 
nowhere did he say it was only working on high, quite the contrary he said "It is blowing out warm air !!! What gives? All other functions work correctly but no cold air anymore."

it sounds like freon to me. here's a post from mark basch about why one side would blow hot and the other cool:

Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:29:33 EDT
From: Mark Basch
Subject: [NSX] Fwd: [NSX] Air Cond. on my 91 - Help - long
To: [email protected]

Doug- Long story, simple solution- low freon. I've described this in long
form before, the short version is when the freon is low the car always blows
colder on the right side than on the left because the point where the cold
air is 'made' in the evap is in the lower right corner, and when low the evap
warms first at the point furthest from where the air is made cold, upper
left. The duct is a three compartment affair, and the left compartment is in
front of this warm spot on the evap, thus feeds the left vent with warmer air.

(still with me?)

When the system is low, the quantity of freon available as a liquid, to be
converted to a gas (and thus create "the cold") is not enough to cool the
whole evap at low speed, but at a higher speed, the faster compressor speed,
coupled with more air moving over the condensers, helps make up for this
shortfall, so the a/c works better at speed. (the more air cooling the
condenser, the faster the freon gas, can be converted back to freon liquid,
so the compressor can start the whole thing over again).

(still with me?)

And- it is totally normal, than when the humidity is high, and the evap core
temp very low, you get fog.

The mode door for fresh / recirc always moves by itself when the temp
selected gets closer to the temp achieved. It only stays on recirc long
enough to close the gap between selected and achieved, then goes to fresh as
the desired mode when recirc is no longer needed.

To verify you have low freon, check the sight glass mounted on top of the
receiver / drier, which is the aluminum cylinder about 3 inches dia by 7
inches tall, located to the right of the spare tire (as you face it). With
the engine and a/c on, the sight glass should be completely clear. If you see
a few bubbles, its a few tenths of a pound low.
If its foamy, its probably half a pound or 7 tenths low.
I would take it back to the place that replaced the condenser and line, have
them check for leaks, and top up the freon, and charge it to your insurance
if they paid for the repair.

Good Luck,
Mark
 
Originally posted by smoore:

i don't think you're understanding there problem it's not just blowing warm its blowing cold...

Yep, I had the exact same problem, Cold air out of the passenger vents, and Hot air out of the drivers side. It was low freon. Added a can and it's been blowing cold all summer.


Jonathan
 
This has been discussed before, here and here.

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[This message has been edited by Forums Nazi (edited 16 September 2002).]
 
You guys are great. I will incorporate the help of my father with this since he is authorized to purchase and do a/c work. I will let you know how it turns out.
Thank's for all the advice.

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Originally posted by smoore:
92 nsx this is your problem (more than likely)
the central control panel is going/gone bad it is getting mixed signals
on the older nsx's the capaciters start to blow leaking acid on the circuit board. i beleive bad carma has/had the same problem.
I do have the same problem and have been putting off the fix after talking with the dealer they as smoore indicated had a great big smile.mo money..
MY ac issue is very messed up.and I would really like some feedback aside from your low on freon.I know this.most of you are getting the issue of one side blows warm and the other side cool or cold (low on freon and of course a leak)MY NSX does this also but the part I cannot put together is :

a.blows only on high per the service bulletin about the blower motor or transister fix.
b.blows cold on the top vents while on max air(the only mode it will blow cold in.BUT at the same time blows max heat from the floor vents.very perplexing
I am assuming at this point I am:
1. low on freon and have a leak
2. have the issue with the blower motor and transister
3.could be caused by a faulty climate control back piece or both front and back as my car SHOWS no error codes when I do the self diagnostic climate check per the faq.
I could deal with the blower motor issue and low freon causing the signiture hot one side cool the other BUT cold up top hot and I mean hot on the floor vents is driving me crazier then I all ready am.(I did indicate it will only blow cold if its on max high and the mode is set to use both top and floor vents.
I thought to get a freon charge with dye (find the leak and fix)and shut off the hot hoses at the valves in the front bay so no hot air could come in and run like that.I have no other solution as yet and dont want to start with the most expensive fix(smoores route is probably the way I will go if climate unit needed).
finnaly I have posted on this before and NOBODY on this board has experienced the hot cold issue top to bottom only side to side.any insight into this top to bottom gimmick would make my decade.MY worst fear is that I have a leak ,the blower motor issue AND a faulty control unit. there goes my mods fund.come on guys I know that some of you are genious concerning this auto.throw me a bone!
best regards for you suffering souls in florida without ac in august.
David
 
David,

I probably have not had precisely the same problems that you have had. And the freon fix could do it I guess, but I can tell you that my 92 had an AC that only seemed to work on max, when it seemed to be quite cool. Later I realized that the defrost on the windshield was not working in high humidity conditions, and then I realized that I could not get heater output.

Long story short: when there are a number of issues, there is a good chance that you are looking at a control unit problem, but to confirm that you must go through (as per the shop manual) confirming that various motors operating the climate control system are working correctly. For instance, there is a motor that controls doors and opens and closes the hot water valve to the heater radiator. If your motor is working, and the manual gives you a checklist for confirming this, then you are back to the control head which, if faulty, may lie to you about problems.

As was mentioned, the control head has a number of components that can fail. I had mine repaired at a local electronic equipment repair shop for $100, plus tax (3 capacitors). They were in no way specialist on NSX, ... they just knew bad components when they found them. I gave them the website for the NSX shop manual as a reference. I don't know that they used it, but the results have given me a comfortable summer ride in any case.

If you don't want to checkout components and read the manual, then go to a dealer and get a diagnosis. But if they replace the control head, it is going to be a bunch more than a bill and change.

anvil
 
Well the verdict is in. The freon being injected into the system cured the problem. I put a 12oz can in last night and got it down to 46-48 degress out of the driver side center vent. My father said that the system could probably use another few ounces but no sense in wasting a whole can for just that small amount.
Thank's for all the help guys !!!
It is darn sure hot here in FL and now I'm a cool cat !!!


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